Why dont you guys set up paypal for donations to your music?

I've thought about this ever since i came here to be honest. Without wishing to lick anyone's arse some of you produce such high quality music that it's a shame you don't get any for it apart from some guy such as myself saying nice one, thanks. Majority say f all too, which is even worse.

I understand that you make it because you enjoy it but still, i think a paypal donation thing whatever it is might be a good idea for a number of you. Isn't it so unlikely that you'll get a contract these days that looking elsewhere with other methods for the income is the way forward?

Likewise with the featured artists forum... hell i never look at it really... on the whole the members of this board make better music.

Although saying all that may be i'm speaking out of turn and you guys do make money from it somewhere but i'm just ignorant about it... but whatever, why don't more of you do it? Maybe you don't think you deserve it or are good enough at it? Embarrassed to ask maybe? Fuck that, you guys rule! Thanks for all the music! Peace

its all bulllshit

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

My shit aint good enough yo. Also couldn't be arsed, do they send you a check or what?

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:28 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

 

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

 

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

 

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

i don't think anything should be sold, really... in an utopia everything would be shared, that's what i'm going for so i don't charge for my music, however poor

i dont have a bank account or maybe i would. if someone wants to send me a check ill give you my address.

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:34 PM, sneaksta303 said:

i dont have a bank account or maybe i would. if someone wants to send me a check ill give you my address.

 

how can you not have a bank account? your music displays lots of potential, i would get with it if i were you and start pimpin'

I will accept payment in the form of pints.

I recently put up a paypal on my myspace page, nothing...

Put my new EP up for sale (£3) via bandcamp and had a few buyers, which is nice.

i'm building a discography site for myself. i'm debating whether or not i should put a paypal button up for donations.

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:44 PM, asymmetrical head said:

i'm building a discography site for myself. i'm debating whether or not i should put a paypal button up for donations.

you should, i would donate

I donate a arse load of money every year - by buying CDs. Not for mp3s.

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:33 PM, tht tne said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:28 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

 

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

 

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

 

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

 

i don't think anything should be sold, really... in an utopia everything would be shared, that's what i'm going for so i don't charge for my music, however poor

i don't know where your thought is based on, but we are not the mayans, egyptians or greeks and we are not living in their time anymore. everything is a million times more complex and we don't just need to buy food, tools or animals but have a whole different organization.

i personally think money was the worst creation ever, but the thought that everything could simply be shared is like you say: utopian.

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:11 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:33 PM, tht tne said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:28 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

 

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

 

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

 

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

 

i don't think anything should be sold, really... in an utopia everything would be shared, that's what i'm going for so i don't charge for my music, however poor

 

i don't know where your thought is based on, but we are not the mayans, egyptians or greeks and we are not living in their time anymore. everything is a million times more complex and we don't just need to buy food, tools or animals but have a whole different organization.

 

i personally think money was the worst creation ever, but the thought that everything could simply be shared is like you say: utopian.

then again, the means of production are cheaper now than ever before. i've been making music for 8 years and i've pirated nearly everything i've used, except max/msp, a microkorg, and a mic/preamp. if music can be made without great expense, why shouldn't it be shared freely?

i tried selling an album recently and it was a humbling experience to say the least. music > money.

because i don't think it's good enough

someone bought some of my shit on deviantart yesterday though

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:27 PM, kaini said:

because i don't think it's good enough

someone bought some of my shit on deviantart yesterday though

Has Grant gotten back to you yet? I want a shirt dude.

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:11 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:33 PM, tht tne said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:28 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

 

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

 

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

 

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

 

i don't think anything should be sold, really... in an utopia everything would be shared, that's what i'm going for so i don't charge for my music, however poor

 

i don't know where your thought is based on, but we are not the mayans, egyptians or greeks and we are not living in their time anymore. everything is a million times more complex and we don't just need to buy food, tools or animals but have a whole different organization.

 

i personally think money was the worst creation ever, but the thought that everything could simply be shared is like you say: utopian.

the trouble with factoring in money with your artistic life is that it's introducing a reward system in your art. where a musical direction that you otherwise may have cut short, may be explored further purely because it caused some money to come your way. tracks that you don't particularly like, may be a hit with other people, and this may apply some pressure on you to retread the same ground for no other reason than to maintain or elevate another's interest in your work. i think it's a hazardous path to travel, where all it takes is a few months of no inspiration for an artist to decide "maybe i'll make some [genre], people are throwing money at that."

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:44 PM, chassis said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:27 PM, kaini said:

because i don't think it's good enough

someone bought some of my shit on deviantart yesterday though

 

Has Grant gotten back to you yet? I want a shirt dude.

heh, not holding my breath on that one.

i'm thinking of getting into the lucrative mousemat market.

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:25 PM, Boxus said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:11 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:33 PM, tht tne said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:28 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

 

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

 

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

 

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

 

i don't think anything should be sold, really... in an utopia everything would be shared, that's what i'm going for so i don't charge for my music, however poor

 

i don't know where your thought is based on, but we are not the mayans, egyptians or greeks and we are not living in their time anymore. everything is a million times more complex and we don't just need to buy food, tools or animals but have a whole different organization.

 

i personally think money was the worst creation ever, but the thought that everything could simply be shared is like you say: utopian.

 

then again, the means of production are cheaper now than ever before. i've been making music for 8 years and i've pirated nearly everything i've used, except max/msp, a microkorg, and a mic/preamp. if music can be made without great expense, why shouldn't it be shared freely?

 

i tried selling an album recently and it was a humbling experience to say the least. music > money.

i am not putting money over music at all, i won't do that, ever.us

you don't spend money at all because you have some pirated tools, but you could be spending a lot of money - as there are technologies that require investment - and therefore you would be losing it.

money spent on records is also a sign of respect and appraisal from fans. i see it as a deserved reward for the work.

i mean, if you pay a mason for a certain work at your house, why wouldn't he pay to listen to the music you are creating? i think it's just fair that way.

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:56 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:25 PM, Boxus said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:11 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:33 PM, tht tne said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:28 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

 

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

 

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

 

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

 

i don't think anything should be sold, really... in an utopia everything would be shared, that's what i'm going for so i don't charge for my music, however poor

 

i don't know where your thought is based on, but we are not the mayans, egyptians or greeks and we are not living in their time anymore. everything is a million times more complex and we don't just need to buy food, tools or animals but have a whole different organization.

 

i personally think money was the worst creation ever, but the thought that everything could simply be shared is like you say: utopian.

 

then again, the means of production are cheaper now than ever before. i've been making music for 8 years and i've pirated nearly everything i've used, except max/msp, a microkorg, and a mic/preamp. if music can be made without great expense, why shouldn't it be shared freely?

 

i tried selling an album recently and it was a humbling experience to say the least. music > money.

 

i am not putting money over music at all, i won't do that, ever.us

 

you don't spend money at all because you have some pirated tools, but you could be spending a lot of money - as there are technologies that require investment - and therefore you would be losing it.

 

money spent on records is also a sign of respect and appraisal from fans. i see it as a deserved reward for the work.

 

i mean, if you pay a mason for a certain work at your house, why wouldn't he pay to listen to the music you are creating? i think it's just fair that way.

i see your point, but i think that paying someone for housework is different because it's labor. i don't think of creative endeavours as labor, although they do arguably require more work/thought/talent. its just that creative work is so much more personal, it makes more sense to me that good art would be rewarded first by recognition, which is more valuable in a way since it leads to networks of mutual respect where creative ideas can be shared. money can be a part of that recognition but it doesn't need to be, i'd rather leave money to the pragmatic world than make it an expectation attached to art.

  On 8/13/2010 at 12:07 AM, Boxus said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:56 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:25 PM, Boxus said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 10:11 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:33 PM, tht tne said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:28 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 8/12/2010 at 9:18 PM, tht tne said:

i don't want my music to be sold, i know i'm in the minority with that and i'm ok... music should be categorically free

 

i am surprised to see that you think that way and at the same time you make music yourself.

 

i am taking a risk here because i don't really know you, but maybe you have that perspective because you don't live out of making music.

 

why wouldn't you want to sell it? i am curious.

 

i don't think anything should be sold, really... in an utopia everything would be shared, that's what i'm going for so i don't charge for my music, however poor

 

i don't know where your thought is based on, but we are not the mayans, egyptians or greeks and we are not living in their time anymore. everything is a million times more complex and we don't just need to buy food, tools or animals but have a whole different organization.

 

i personally think money was the worst creation ever, but the thought that everything could simply be shared is like you say: utopian.

 

then again, the means of production are cheaper now than ever before. i've been making music for 8 years and i've pirated nearly everything i've used, except max/msp, a microkorg, and a mic/preamp. if music can be made without great expense, why shouldn't it be shared freely?

 

i tried selling an album recently and it was a humbling experience to say the least. music > money.

 

i am not putting money over music at all, i won't do that, ever.us

 

you don't spend money at all because you have some pirated tools, but you could be spending a lot of money - as there are technologies that require investment - and therefore you would be losing it.

 

money spent on records is also a sign of respect and appraisal from fans. i see it as a deserved reward for the work.

 

i mean, if you pay a mason for a certain work at your house, why wouldn't he pay to listen to the music you are creating? i think it's just fair that way.

 

i see your point, but i think that paying someone for housework is different because it's labor. i don't think of creative endeavours as labor, although they do arguably require more work/thought/talent. its just that creative work is so much more personal, it makes more sense to me that good art would be rewarded first by recognition, which is more valuable in a way since it leads to networks of mutual respect where creative ideas can be shared. money can be a part of that recognition but it doesn't need to be, i'd rather leave money to the pragmatic world than make it an expectation attached to art.

i see your point as well.

artistic creation is indeed personal and private. i am constantly sketching and working on drawings that almost nobody has the chance to watch and even if i had the opportunity to make money with it, honestly i see no interest in it.

but art that doesn't sell, doesn't bring money.

we all need a job, in the sense that we all need a way to get money, to live. wasn't da vinci's work painting? shakespeare's work writing? da vinci was frequently comissioned for work by the business man and royalty and at certain points of his life, he was completely at their service.

did that decreased his potencial and his ability to paint? well, maybe it did, because it's always kind of a "prison", when you work like that, but there is no evidence that he ever mentioned that and his works are considered to be timeless masterpieces, even today.

my point is: men have paid for art for almost as long as they have existed, only today we see that having worse results. i think it's more of a question of mentality than is a question of money.

Not good enough yet, I wouldn't pay for it myself.

paypal is pretty annoying

  On 8/13/2010 at 3:32 AM, chimera slot mom said:

Not good enough yet, I wouldn't pay for it myself.