RWM Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Jon Leidecker is producing an in-depth overview on the History of Sampling. His show, entitled VARIATIONS, is available online at: http://bit.ly/9aMeSJ The first episode (http://bit.ly/bRLW2u) exposes that the idea of a completely original piece of music is fairly recent. Music was passed on through sound, through generations, even for centuries after the invention of written music. Only in the 14th century did it become standard practice for a composer to sign his name to a piece of music and claim it entirely as his own, giving rise to the cult of the individual composer. But as recording supplanted sheet music in the 20th century, the presence of communal influence became unavoidably obvious once again as composers began to use recordings to make new recordings. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
encey Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 cheers, checking it out now! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide encey's signature Hide all signatures essines said: i am hot shit ... that smells like baking bread. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1406982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
producer snafu Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 thanks! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide producer snafu's signature Hide all signatures i Luh Clouds! https://linktr.ee/producer_snafu http://www.last.fm/user/producersnafu -=<()>=- Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1407176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 fuck yeah i've been waiting for this, for those who don't know Jon Leidecker = Wobbly, collaborator with Matmos & People like Us Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1407322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 This is a fascinating listen. Thank you for this. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1407594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 needs more reverb as its very dry Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1408219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 On 9/3/2010 at 5:00 AM, autopilot said: This is a fascinating listen. Thank you for this. ^I second that, thanks for posting this. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1408248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thepilot Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 thank you! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1408933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
encym Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thanks a lot lot lot! Great site! Love the MACBA. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide encym's signature Hide all signatures www.encym.net https://neotantra.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-meditation Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1409150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest no carrier Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 i haven't had a chance to watch this yet, so i ask is there anything on the JAMs/KLF?! the JAMs 1987/shag times stuff was, IMHO, pivotal in ushering the modern age of oversampling by taking it to such an extreme they had to literally burn copies of 1987 and toss them off of boats. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1409287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 On 9/5/2010 at 7:38 PM, no carrier said: i haven't had a chance to watch this yet, so i ask is there anything on the JAMs/KLF?! the JAMs 1987/shag times stuff was, IMHO, pivotal in ushering the modern age of oversampling by taking it to such an extreme they had to literally burn copies of 1987 and toss them off of boats. this is part one ( of six) covering 1908 - 1960, not sure if he's going to talk about the KLF much i'd imagine in the 80s he's going to focus more on hiphop culture and Negativeland or John Oswald. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1409332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 hmm i feel dumb i didn't realize that this was almost a year old, here are all the other parts - http://rwm.macba.cat/en/jon_leidecker-tag Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1409403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 On 9/5/2010 at 9:45 PM, Awepittance said: On 9/5/2010 at 7:38 PM, no carrier said: i haven't had a chance to watch this yet, so i ask is there anything on the JAMs/KLF?! the JAMs 1987/shag times stuff was, IMHO, pivotal in ushering the modern age of oversampling by taking it to such an extreme they had to literally burn copies of 1987 and toss them off of boats. this is part one ( of six) covering 1908 - 1960, not sure if he's going to talk about the KLF much i'd imagine in the 80s he's going to focus more on hiphop culture and Negativeland or John Oswald. He actually discusses the KLF in the last part as well as the British scene (Coldcut, M|A|R|R|S, etc) specifically 1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?), I think he mentions Negativeland in more than one section because of their longer career and his personal experience listening to them. The whole series is quite comprehensive and very informative without being overly academic or pretentious. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1416981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 i havent gotten that far into it yet. Did you already listen to the whole thing? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1417149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 On 9/17/2010 at 2:14 AM, Awepittance said: i havent gotten that far into it yet. Did you already listen to the whole thing? I did indeed. I digitize documents all day and the upside is I get to listen to a lot Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1420084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Nice one for posting. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide spratters's signature Hide all signatures Jet fuel can't melt dank memes Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1420432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWM Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) You might be also be interested in Jon Leidecker's conceptual mix on the relationship between avant-garde and pastoral landscape. "Pastoral V.2" is a curated overview hoping to underline the history of those classic works of electronic and concrète music which sought to mimic and extend the voices and sounds of our pastoral landscape, which can be closer to the heart of the medium's inherent potential than the more common identifications with inhuman or alienated expressions of industrial culture. The emerging medium of electronic music found its way to a wider public audience in the 1950's, accompanied by descriptions of the sounds as inherently unearthly, fantastic, or cold and inhuman. Partially this was in response to the medium's instant adoption as sound effects for science fiction films and television shows, as spearheaded by Louis and Bebe Barron in their score for the film "Forbidden Planet". But electronic musical instruments also possessed the ability to closely emulate and extend the voices of the animal world to a greater degree than any musical instrument in history. A gated tone oscillator or untempered synthesizer gives a player a better chance at creating melodies that sound like birdsong than any violin or flute – save perhaps for a recording of a flute that's been sped up several octaves, using the techniques of musique concrète. You can find it here: Link: http://bit.ly/dlkapp Mp3: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://rwm.macba.cat/uploads/interruptions/01_Pastoral_v2.mp3 The related documentation it is also worth reading: http://bit.ly/d2JCdr Edited September 30, 2010 by RWM Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1426017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 sounds awesome, everybody check out the new upcoming Wobbly (jon leidecker) /matmos / lesser album, its very good Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1426422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
encym Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 On 9/30/2010 at 12:30 PM, RWM said: You might be also be interested in Jon Leidecker's conceptual mix on the relationship between avant-garde and pastoral landscape. "Pastoral V.2" is a curated overview hoping to underline the history of those classic works of electronic and concrète music which sought to mimic and extend the voices and sounds of our pastoral landscape, which can be closer to the heart of the medium's inherent potential than the more common identifications with inhuman or alienated expressions of industrial culture. The emerging medium of electronic music found its way to a wider public audience in the 1950's, accompanied by descriptions of the sounds as inherently unearthly, fantastic, or cold and inhuman. Partially this was in response to the medium's instant adoption as sound effects for science fiction films and television shows, as spearheaded by Louis and Bebe Barron in their score for the film "Forbidden Planet". But electronic musical instruments also possessed the ability to closely emulate and extend the voices of the animal world to a greater degree than any musical instrument in history. A gated tone oscillator or untempered synthesizer gives a player a better chance at creating melodies that sound like birdsong than any violin or flute – save perhaps for a recording of a flute that's been sped up several octaves, using the techniques of musique concrète. You can find it here: Link: http://bit.ly/dlkapp Mp3: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://rwm.macba.cat/uploads/interruptions/01_Pastoral_v2.mp3 The related documentation it is also worth reading: http://bit.ly/d2JCdr On 9/30/2010 at 10:56 PM, Awepittance said: sounds awesome, everybody check out the new upcoming Wobbly (jon leidecker) /matmos / lesser album, its very good Thanks guys! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide encym's signature Hide all signatures www.encym.net https://neotantra.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-meditation Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1426767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWM Posted October 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Related to the sampling series: Interview with Vicki Bennett, plunderphonic genius behind People Like Us. http://bit.ly/dy83kd http://bit.ly/8ZBbrg Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59279-in-depth-overview-on-the-history-of-sampling/#findComment-1431562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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