REAKTOR PRISM

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The new Modal Bank module that is now included in REAKTOR 5.5 is the foundation for REAKTOR PRISM, the first synth based on this exciting technology. Modal synthesis is often used for physical modeling, as these algorithms can more accurately simulate the behavior of real instruments. REAKTOR PRISM uses these principles in an unconventional and new way to create sounds never heard before rather than mimic existing ones.

Anybody else here curious about this? As I'm a fan of native instruments I'll likely give prism a shot, it will be interesting to see how this 'modal synthesis' concept is implemented. hopefully they can live up to the ingenuity of absynth's engine??

this looks good. algorithms are the way to go.. like the k2000's VAST engine, one of the most powerful conceived and that was in '92.

im obsessed with physical modeling so i shall check this out

  On 9/14/2010 at 5:37 PM, mafted said:

this looks good. algorithms are the way to go.. like the k2000's VAST engine, one of the most powerful conceived and that was in '92.

I thought the K2000's VAST was a bit pants really, all it could do would turn a sample into a digitized mess but sometime the mess was good

I spent 3 or 4 hours the other night playing about with the Modal filter primary module that you get in the latest version of Reaktor. Let's just say I'm a long way off getting something even 10% as musical sounding as the demos you can listen to on the NI site of Prism. I'm still swithering about whether it's good value to upgrade to the latest version of Komplete... but I doubt I would splash the cash just for Prism on it's own. So maybe one day I'll check it out.

is this a free reaktor ensemble or do you have to pay?

edit: nevermind, it's $79

  On 9/14/2010 at 11:47 PM, soundwave said:

  On 9/14/2010 at 5:37 PM, mafted said:

this looks good. algorithms are the way to go.. like the k2000's VAST engine, one of the most powerful conceived and that was in '92.

 

I thought the K2000's VAST was a bit pants really, all it could do would turn a sample into a digitized mess but sometime the mess was good

hah, what? it gets way more in depth than that. you can basically do any synth technique there is.. but that's another topic.

prism sounds pretty good. the modal synthesis talk is nice and all, but in practise, it sounds to my ear like an additive synth. i know there's more to it than that, technically speaking, but the end result is what i'm typically after.

$79 for a full softsynth isn't that unreasonable, is it? i still think NI should package these as individual instruments, though. hunting around inside of an instantiated reaktor window to find where prism or spark or any other synth is hiding is kind of a pain. i don't see why they don't do it more like C74 with the pluggo runtime. i'd probably use these NI instruments and effects a LOT more if they showed up in my AU list. otherwise i just never think of using them.

this vaguely smells like the hartmann neuron where things were named like scape and sphere instead of cutoff and res. does it sound distinctly different from subtractive or FM? or does it just make nice plucky noises like many other things?

aside, new reaktor widgets are welcome.

I do believe there is a free reaktor player now... I thought I read that... Prism runs with it, unless you have reaktor already, in which case it'll just open in reaktor.

  On 9/15/2010 at 7:46 PM, maus said:

prism sounds pretty good. the modal synthesis talk is nice and all, but in practise, it sounds to my ear like an additive synth. i know there's more to it than that, technically speaking, but the end result is what i'm typically after.

 

$79 for a full softsynth isn't that unreasonable, is it?

it's not, but it's kind of misleading that Native instruments doesn't want you to distribute for free or in your own instruments pieces from these commercial ones. If you don't want people to open source it then lock the patch and release it in the reaktor engine, not editable.

shows what i know... i work for the fuckers and wasn't aware of that.

reaktor has so much potential that they're not exploiting. making it possible for people to sell / distribute standalone VST / AU instruments they build in reaktor would be pretty huge. you get a bit of that with MAX / MSP and pluggo, but reaktor is much more likely to have more content created. i mean, look at the user library. they could even sell the runtime for $50 or something and that'd be fairly reasonable.

what do i know, i make videos for a living.

  On 9/16/2010 at 12:32 AM, maus said:

shows what i know... i work for the fuckers and wasn't aware of that.

 

reaktor has so much potential that they're not exploiting. making it possible for people to sell / distribute standalone VST / AU instruments they build in reaktor would be pretty huge. you get a bit of that with MAX / MSP and pluggo, but reaktor is much more likely to have more content created. i mean, look at the user library. they could even sell the runtime for $50 or something and that'd be fairly reasonable.

 

what do i know, i make videos for a living.

completely agreed, especially if the rumor is true that NI develops alot of their beta products from within Reaktor

I almost lost my NI user account when i posted a link to a patch i made that pulled a mixer from an Electronic Instruments volume 2 patch. Sowari tsk tsked me hard. I think also a user here Fleetmouse got on my case too about the same thing. I was actually surprised because i assumed that was the whole point of reaktor, open source, open share, etc