Redruth Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Erik Satie - 42 Vexations Quote As detailed in this disc’s accompanying essay by Matthew Shlomowitz, Vexations would have remained a possibly forgotten and probably unplayed piece of Erik Satie’s oeuvre were it not for John Cage. The composition, which consists of the same short phrase played on the piano 840 times, resulting in over 18 hours of proto-minimalism that might have been a joke when Satie conceived of it, but has grown, in some circles, into what might be the composer’s most notorious work. Vexations is enigmatic, to be sure: some debate whether the composition was ever meant to be performed or was simply a conceptual exercise, and conjecture remains as to whether the 840 iterations of the comp- osition’s sole motif are necessary to its performance, or merely a suggestion from Satie. His vague indication of tempo has even led to disparity in the piece’s length; it has taken as long as 28 hours to perform in full. The piece is handled on this disc in excerpt form by Belgian Stephane Ginsburgh, who has previously performed piano works by Morton Feldman, Marcel Duchamp and others for the Sub Rosa imprint. Clocking in at 69 minutes, 42 Vexations, as the liner notes mention, needs 12 repeated plays to reach the 840 mark, but even this sliver of the full piece gets its point across adequately enough. Vexations was written as a piece of Musique d’Ameublement (furniture music), Satie’s name for music that is meant to be a part of the listener’s surroundings, functioning as an atmospheric touch, not something to be paid attention to so much as a not-always-noticed tonal influence on a space. Some have keenly observed that in this, Satie had created the world’s first muzak, but a piece like Vexations isn’t in the same league as instrumental Manilow. Were Vexations to be played in your local department store (if a department store is lucky to still exist in your town), it likely wouldn’t take long for the average shopper to notice that something was up. In this way, the composition no longer serves its original purpose: While it might be easy to ignore, the repetition of the piece makes it rather noticeable, and what was at least partially meant as background sound is now performed and discussed more as an endurance test for both the listener and performer. Nowhere is this so obvious as in Vexations premier performance in September 1963, where the piece was famously performed by John Cage, John Cale, Christian Wolff, James Tenney and others. The longer a participant stayed, the less they paid in admission, with those who stayed long enough even coming out ahead on the deal and making money. One man, Karl Schenzer, made it through to the end, and Vexations had been used as a far more demonstrative tool than its composer appeared to intend. Ginsburgh’s interpretation of the Satie score is hardly provocative, played softly, and at a pleasingly unhurried pace. The single motif that makes up the piece does an odd job of shape-shifting as it is repeated: what sounds plaintive on one go-around is ominous at the next, and might gain even a bit of levity 20 minutes later. Of course, Ginsburgh’s no robot, so there’s variation in his playing, but, as it unfolds, the piece becomes as much about the listener as it is about the performer. Attempts to pay close attention don’t necessarily offer a payoff. Vexations is what it is – starkly simple and complexly enigmatic all at once. Sub Rosa Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60790-erik-satie-42-vexations-1893-performed-by-stephane-ginsburgh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 they should have put this on DVD, seems pointless to have it 69 minutes long Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60790-erik-satie-42-vexations-1893-performed-by-stephane-ginsburgh/#findComment-1442236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 we know about vexations thanks troon the almighty purveyor of culture. the music isn't what's really interesting about it tho, which EVERYONE seems to forget. It was Satie fooling with western music notation. Also the melody is close to impossible to sight sing from the page. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60790-erik-satie-42-vexations-1893-performed-by-stephane-ginsburgh/#findComment-1442255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) i'm feeling as though this release does satie a decent bit of justice and though it be abridged provides a fine version of forty two vexations through sub rosa. it is not of course the ultimate example of this great work but it does make a nice pack that may appeal to many as a way to easily access this lesser known satie that they might not otherwise come into contact. dr lopez, are you meaning to sound so daft? if so i feel your communications to be greatly unwarranted. even if you do not appreciate my contributions to this forum personally it is important that you keep the feelings of the greater community in mind instead of just that of your own. there are much more appropriate ways in which to speak to me and i don't appreciate your tone Edited October 22, 2010 by troon Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60790-erik-satie-42-vexations-1893-performed-by-stephane-ginsburgh/#findComment-1442520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 a 70 minute recording of 40 (?) repetitions of this came out like 4 or 5 years ago...not quite sure we needed a new recording with a couple more repetitions. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60790-erik-satie-42-vexations-1893-performed-by-stephane-ginsburgh/#findComment-1442623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 stephane ginsburgh Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60790-erik-satie-42-vexations-1893-performed-by-stephane-ginsburgh/#findComment-1442881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisforawesome Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 On 10/22/2010 at 1:10 PM, troon said: dr lopez, are you meaning to sound so daft? if so i feel your communications to be greatly unwarranted. even if you do not appreciate my contributions to this forum personally it is important that you keep the feelings of the greater community in mind instead of just that of your own. there are much more appropriate ways in which to speak to me and i don't appreciate your tone Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sisforawesome's signature Hide all signatures Δ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60790-erik-satie-42-vexations-1893-performed-by-stephane-ginsburgh/#findComment-1443011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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