Wyern Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Hi I'd like to start making music for small retro videogames. Some examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYB7iLZNWE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHk_N77DaA I am not sure which software and VST's would be more appropiate for this kind of tunes, could you recommend me some? I don't care if it's free or paid, this way I can compare the options. Thanks! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lube Saibot Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 get any of the numerous software who can do this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_MIDI Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Examples 1 & 2 are actually quite different beasts. The first being FM synthesis, and the second being a sample based module. Even though it's a initially a real steep learning curve, for making music for little indie like games I'd suggest maybe starting with a tracker (something like lovely and free ModPlug Tracker - http://www.modplug.com/trackerinfo.html - and click on the Quickstart kit to point you in the right direction). To start with just download some tracks ( http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_rating_comments&query=10 ) to see how other people have used the programme and just experiment from there ... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Blah get a copy of Ableton Live Intro and get QuadraSID vst Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 and that vst company that makes effects with mario and zelda names... those are video gamish Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tamas Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I don't really like QuadraSID because the timing seems off, at least when using it with Ableton... If you'd like to make faithful representations of the NES soundchip and do it the way it was done originally, you should use a tracker. Famitracker works really well, I've used it briefly and it can even save it as an NFS file, which allows you to play the composition on actual NES (with required hardware, of course) or with whatever NES emulator you think has the best NES Soundchip reproduction (I liked NesterJ) In terms of VSTs, there is one called magical8bitplug that I think reproduces the NES soundwaves the best, but seems to have similiar timing issues to QuadraSID (on Ableton) and also Chip32 which isn't as faithful but can do rough reproductions of the NES waveforms. Good luck! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 On 10/31/2010 at 8:40 PM, yek said: and that vst company that makes effects with mario and zelda names... those are video gamish TweakBench's Peach and Toad Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 ^this Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeyemusik Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 ^ this again. Also consider Basic 64, Plastique and MiniSID from the freeware section of Delamancha's site. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeyemusik's signature Hide all signatures http://jeye.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 On 10/31/2010 at 4:08 PM, mcbpete said: Examples 1 & 2 are actually quite different beasts. The first being FM synthesis, and the second being a sample based module. Even though it's a initially a real steep learning curve, for making music for little indie like games I'd suggest maybe starting with a tracker (something like lovely and free ModPlug Tracker - http://www.modplug.com/trackerinfo.html - and click on the Quickstart kit to point you in the right direction). To start with just download some tracks ( http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_rating_comments&query=10 ) to see how other people have used the programme and just experiment from there ... if you want to make music like example #2 the best way is probably just rip a sample bank from an actual SNES game. I've recently been doing this with super castlevania IV and contra III with great results. Download an SPC player, download the donkey kong country SPC files, then use a plugin for say winamp that lets you mute the instrument channels. Record the output of the songs individual instrument layers, then cut out individual notes with a wave editor, load them into several sample bank VST instruments on a sequencer. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 On 11/1/2010 at 1:54 AM, Awepittance said: On 10/31/2010 at 4:08 PM, mcbpete said: Examples 1 & 2 are actually quite different beasts. The first being FM synthesis, and the second being a sample based module. Even though it's a initially a real steep learning curve, for making music for little indie like games I'd suggest maybe starting with a tracker (something like lovely and free ModPlug Tracker - http://www.modplug.com/trackerinfo.html - and click on the Quickstart kit to point you in the right direction). To start with just download some tracks ( http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_rating_comments&query=10 ) to see how other people have used the programme and just experiment from there ... if you want to make music like example #2 the best way is probably just rip a sample bank from an actual SNES game. I've recently been doing this with super castlevania IV and contra III with great results. Download an SPC player, download the donkey kong country SPC files, then use a plugin for say winamp that lets you mute the instrument channels. Record the output of the songs individual instrument layers, then cut out individual notes with a wave editor, load them into several sample bank VST instruments on a sequencer. there's a program that creates multiple wav files from loading a snes rom file. i downloaded like hundreds of snes games from a torrent site and ripped all the wav files form each one. took me hours. i should sell it lol. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 On 11/1/2010 at 2:08 AM, yek said: On 11/1/2010 at 1:54 AM, Awepittance said: On 10/31/2010 at 4:08 PM, mcbpete said: Examples 1 & 2 are actually quite different beasts. The first being FM synthesis, and the second being a sample based module. Even though it's a initially a real steep learning curve, for making music for little indie like games I'd suggest maybe starting with a tracker (something like lovely and free ModPlug Tracker - http://www.modplug.com/trackerinfo.html - and click on the Quickstart kit to point you in the right direction). To start with just download some tracks ( http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_rating_comments&query=10 ) to see how other people have used the programme and just experiment from there ... if you want to make music like example #2 the best way is probably just rip a sample bank from an actual SNES game. I've recently been doing this with super castlevania IV and contra III with great results. Download an SPC player, download the donkey kong country SPC files, then use a plugin for say winamp that lets you mute the instrument channels. Record the output of the songs individual instrument layers, then cut out individual notes with a wave editor, load them into several sample bank VST instruments on a sequencer. there's a program that creates multiple wav files from loading a snes rom file. i downloaded like hundreds of snes games from a torrent site and ripped all the wav files form each one. took me hours. i should sell it lol. woah shit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Renoise + single-cycle waveform samples + QuadraSID + a better bitcrusher that the native one I made music for games, and this is what I use. Reveal hidden contents You can really use whatever though. It's more what you write than what you write with. Then again, most people think my shit sounds like video game music anyway. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1447997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockfish Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 maybe too many features for a beginner, but plogue chipsounds (vst) has most of the classic sound chip emulated. hi watmm! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1448028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 On 11/1/2010 at 11:28 AM, stockfish said: maybe too many features for a beginner, but plogue chipsounds (vst) has most of the classic sound chip emulated. hi watmm! Read the rules. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1448029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockfish Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 yep, have a nice day too! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1448032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 On 11/1/2010 at 11:49 AM, stockfish said: yep, have a nice day too! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1448033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 On 11/1/2010 at 11:28 AM, stockfish said: maybe too many features for a beginner, but plogue chipsounds (vst) has most of the classic sound chip emulated. hi watmm! yeah, I love that vst. My only issue is that it rapes my cpu because my computer sux dix. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1448244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 one thing to keep in mind but when most people use the term 'chip sounds' they are only referring to SID chip or NES style 8-bit music/sfx or before that era. There are only a handful of chip communities that track using Adlib or Sega genesis emulation that i know of . Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1448354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyern Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) Thanks a lot for all the answers, I'm still a noob but i'll do my best to come up with some tunes. I'll post when I have something listenable Edited November 1, 2010 by Wyern Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61037-software-recomendation/#findComment-1448366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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