chaosmachine Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 [youtubehd]Jj9pbs-jjis[/youtubehd] I can't describe how amazing this is. No computer, just a simple video feedback loop on 3 projectors. Infinite complexity from such elegant simplicity. The fundamental nature of the universe is staring us in the face here. Quote Video feedback is a well-known phenomenon. If you hook a camera up to a TV and then point it at the TV, you get an infinite regression of images. However, you can use the same feedback phenomenon with multiple displays to make fractals. By displaying multiple smaller copies of what the camera sees, photographing that cluster of copies, and then repeating the process, you essentially create the self-similar structure seen in fractals. By moving and rotating the camera and projectors, you can create a very wide variety of fractal images. The images seen in this video are not software-processed in any way. The camera is plugged in directly to the projectors. The pulsing and color shifting comes from the white balance andgain control of the camera. In this setup, we're "computing" the fractal by using light on a wall as memory and the physical geometry of the path taken by the light into the camera and out from the projector as the processor to calculate the appropriate affine transformations. Given that both TV cameras and video projectors were around back in the late 1940s, it's possible that someone could have done this sort of setup at the dawn of the computer age. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotosa Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Wow this is bloody awesome! Thanks for sharing! I do this using Fractron 9000 with my computer but its amazing he juts does it so well using nothing but cameras and his room as the image. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide skotosa's signature Hide all signatures Artist Name: SkiaSoundcloud http://www.last.fm/user/skotosa Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 that's amazing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotosa Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Just did this but with one screen. Its so cool. http://www.techpowerup.org/uploaded.php?file=101103/Paradox.jpg Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide skotosa's signature Hide all signatures Artist Name: SkiaSoundcloud http://www.last.fm/user/skotosa Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronchuseven Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Very sweet video! I saw a guy doing this in Berlin a few years ago using just one projector, a gigantic 80s video camera, and an equally ancient video mixer. The mixer could superimpose simple icons on the projection, like + symbols or dots, that you could position with a joystick. This was handy for generating transient images that would then cycle down through the different scales of the fractal. I bet you could generate cool effects with a laser pointer too - just shine it at the projection for a fraction of a second and the pulse would get recycled down.. I'd totally try this if I had a beamer! (and a camera too I guess... d'oh) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide bronchuseven's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/foldedcrystals/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Really cool shit! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yep. Feedback is probably the coolest thing ever. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
impakt Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Now; project the gantz_graf video and let a 3-projector system have at it, lean back and watch a singularity form. derp Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cardan Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 holy shit Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 what does this have to do with universal processes? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) they are what's known as IFS tiling fractals that's an awesome awesome hack to do em with also, FSOL chaos, you are gonna like http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.fractals/2008-02/msg00005.html Edited November 4, 2010 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1449983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nene multiple assgasms Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 someone should do this with 3d cameras. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1450027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MildewOnRice Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 On 11/4/2010 at 7:47 AM, nene multiple assgasms said: someone should do this with 3d cameras. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1450130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) if you video feedback on lcd screens, you get a radically different effect. It creates these self stabilizing blobs that you can interact with and also maps itself along the contours of your skin if you are in front of the screen. Edited November 4, 2010 by Salvatorin Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1450318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstix Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Very cool, thanks chaosmachine. And I hadn't heard that FSOL track in a while... sighhhhhhhhhh Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide superstix's signature Hide all signatures xoxo,Superstix Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1450324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Fun fact: the "howl around effect" (aka pointing a camera at it's own output) has been in use since the late 50's and was how the original Doctor Who title sequence was created up until 1973. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1450350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kaini Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61134-watch-as-the-fundamental-processes-of-the-universe-are-revealed/#findComment-1450396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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