Guest tonfarben Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 http://www.misadigital.com/index.php?target=home&lang=en I am totally blown away. I can´t play the piano, so entering midi data into the computer is a pain in the a.. for me. Not any more. Has anybody 850 bucks? Is there any experience out there? How does it feel? Gimme comments, please. I´m so exited, I just can´t hide it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 looks cheesy imo. Just get an ipad and use touch osc to build any interface you want... Cheaper, and less dorky. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1478874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 That is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1478877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Things I would buy before that: A real guitar Guitar hero pc Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 it's... "pretty cool" Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clipwave Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 The buttons are all the same size, so you'd likely have the same problem as the fake Rock Band pro guitar they came out with - not being able to tell the strings apart well enough. I'm sure there's better/cheaper ways to adapt guitars into MIDI controllers. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 yeah looks pretty lame. a real guitar with a midi pickup would be much more expressive. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 On 12/17/2010 at 6:37 PM, Dan C said: That is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamovich Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 is he playing radiohead or something? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adamovich's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 On 12/19/2010 at 2:49 AM, modey said: yeah looks pretty lame. a real guitar with a midi pickup would be much more expressive. This is such a better option. Plus you wont look like a geeky retard. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 If you want to be retro and hipster about it, get one of these. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 we've got one of these horrible things cluttering up our house: Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 On 12/19/2010 at 5:23 PM, Iain C said: we've got one of these horrible things cluttering up our house: i have always wanted one of those, if only for the cheese factor. plus, i hear the "mandolin" setting is to die for. i've been mulling over throwing some kind of midi pickup on my currently disassembled and stripped gibson sg. anyone know a good setup? i've heard good things about those roland GK series things but i've read so many conflicting things (need to get a midi thing, that costs an assload, etc etc.) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 I looked into getting a midi pick up for my guitar. Seemed like it would cost a fuckload. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1479961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 i'd bet the flahbub has one Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1480026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tonfarben Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Hehe, everybody hates it, why did I already know that before posting? ;) [icannotQuote] Just get an ipad and use touch osc to build any interface you want... [\IcannotQuote] Yeah, an Ipad. Really? I think Ipads are cheesy. Seriously. It is the left hand that interests me, all these knobs. If you know how to play the guitar, these knobs should work like a charm. They don´t come with an ipad. And btw, how much does an Ipad cost? maybe better not buy one. [icannotQuote] Things I would buy before that: A real guitar Guitar hero pc [\IcannotQuote] Real Guitar: I already have two of them. Since 15 Years. Guitar hero: Played it at a friends House. Liked the "party fun effect", then forgot about it... PC: I have one at home and loadz of them at work (renderfarm, I am a 3D guy), so I guess i beat ya ;) But why all these things first? Especially point two... [icannotQuote]The buttons are all the same size, so you'd likely have the same problem as the fake Rock Band pro guitar they came out with - not being able to tell the strings apart well enough...[\IcannotQuote] Erm... I don´t think that. Have you ever played on stage? It´s fuckin dark there. You have to know where the strings and frets are or you should give up playing at all. Most musicians really often even close there eyes for a while for the "Show effect". How could they do that without knowing where their fingers have to go? You could argue that with playback, ok ok, ok, but I don´t really need eyes for playing the guitar, except for finding that goddamn pickup all the time, so I guess it´s OK, but I wanna rant a little more cuz it´s Monday and I have to get my creative juices somewhere. So, if you ride the bicycle you don´t stare at your feet if they meet the pedals all the time, do you? :) [icannotQuote]yeah looks pretty lame. A real guitar with a midi pickup would be much more expressive.[\IcannotQuote] Any experiences there? A midi pickup was pretty expensive when I wanted to do that. And I did not want to use my beloved Guitar for it. So actually I´d have to buy a good guitar and a Midipickup. How does the midi data come out, in terms of expression (bending for example, chords, flageoletts, ghost notes, etc.) ? are there good pickups and bad ones? Which companies should I look for and which are to avoid? [icannotQuote]Plus you wont look like a geeky retard...[\IcannotQuote] Erm, but I am one! :) The Casio Midi Guitar MG510, is it good in terms of the data you get out of it? Is it good in terms of playing (like a normal guitar wo. midi)? Any other alternatives? Thanks for all the replies. And now keep the guitar to midi tips section in here alive with posting more infos and tips and such here. I am really interested in a solution, because my pianoplaying really sucks and I hate fiddling around with that. Entering notes with a guitar would be much easier for me. And geeky stuff can be posted to, for the sake of nerdism. Happy Christmas. Whatever. :) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1480353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 i'm not sure about pricing but i'm sure a guitar midi pickup would cost less than one of these. also i think the roland pickups don't require any holes to be drilled in the guitar in order to mount it. as for expressiveness, i think they're pretty good, i haven't actually had any experience with midi pickups but from what i've heard from people and what i've heard on recordings, if you set it up right you can make it pretty expressive. bends, chords, velocity, whatever. and re: dark stage, i think one of these would be pretty hard to play without looking at the screen, with a guitar you can feel the strings, with this you just have a flat glass screen, looks like it'd be pretty damn hard to play like a real guitar, especially in a live setting. it's kinda cool that the input method on the screen can be changed according to the sounds, but for something like that to be practical, i'd probably rather have it at a 90 degree angle so i can see what's happening on the screen without tilting the unit upwards. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1480405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tonfarben Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I recently dug a bit more into the thematic Guitar notes to midi notes. So for now the most effective thing is the Axon AX 50, with a corresponding pickup, I think. Can that be confirmed? Or would you say it is totally bullshit and not recommendable? Or do you know any alternatives (equal in function and maybe cheaper)? I´ll choose that device because it is said to have far less latency than the roland GI10 or GI20 one. I couldn´t find any other than these two. I mean, I could, but they weren´t what I want. I want a guitarnotes-to-midi-notes-converter. Nothing more. I play, and my PC gets the midi-data. No sound modules and crapload of shit (why do they pack on more and more features which get obsolete in soooo many situations? Grmbl!!) and That Axon thingy does axactly that. And I think there are only 128 sounds built in (I may be wrong) which are of no interest for me anyway. I found another box, too. It had a really strange name (with a "peter" in it if I can remember correctly) and is sold for 99 dollars. No pickup needed, but it only analyses the output mono audio signal without velocity, so I only can play single notes, no chords, lame... erm, yes. modey: You may be right with the lack of strings beeing difficult for the play-feeling. Maybe they should multitouch-strings in front of that screen (I mean strings that check where and when the finger touched it. And then if you want alternative methods you can put the strings away. I´m not english natively, I mean, you put them away with a mechanism like window opening. Or the one that is like the things outside the window that make your room dark if you want it. Basically turn them away or let them slide into the corpus via spring-mechanism.) Got me? But I think, that flat screen is not a bugger this much, because in the context of the whole guitar form, and your arm, you´ll mostly notice where your hand will go, even if it´s dark like in an asshole by night (last bit "stolen" by early element of crime) So that isn´t a real problem. Or is it? Maybe discussing about wether it is good to play or not is obsolete as long I did not test it yet. I hope it will come out soon as you can only preorder it on their site atm. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1480591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 an ipad is like 400 dollars, plus it's useful for other things. :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1480647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/20/2010 at 6:01 PM, tonfarben said: But I think, that flat screen is not a bugger this much, because in the context of the whole guitar form, and your arm, you´ll mostly notice where your hand will go, even if it´s dark like in an asshole by night (last bit "stolen" by early element of crime) So that isn´t a real problem. Or is it? this is probably the most insightful yet engimatic statement i've ever read Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1481190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tonfarben Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 And how is an Ipad supposed to replace a guitar? I want something that has an advantage over other "interfaces" because I have experience in using it. It turned out, the most effective "interface" for me for getting notes and melodies into the computer nondestructively is a guitar, because I play it like 15 years now. Experience in keyboarding: like 3 days (calculating everything together) Experience in Ipad: zero. Guitar wins. IPad looses dramatically. :) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1481207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/19/2010 at 6:44 PM, disparaissant said: On 12/19/2010 at 5:23 PM, Iain C said: we've got one of these horrible things cluttering up our house: i have always wanted one of those, if only for the cheese factor. plus, i hear the "mandolin" setting is to die for. i've been mulling over throwing some kind of midi pickup on my currently disassembled and stripped gibson sg. anyone know a good setup? i've heard good things about those roland GK series things but i've read so many conflicting things (need to get a midi thing, that costs an assload, etc etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpdq-Anid-U Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FLA FUR BIS FLE's signature Hide all signatures through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1481228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 yeah we had a good laugh at that guy's videos around the time we got it... who'd have thought christopher walken was such a talented musician. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1481246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 that is amazing, hahaha. can't believe those things are going for ~200-300 on ebay. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1481368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 along those lines, omnichords are pretty kickass in the same sort of ironic cheesy way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G8reRPOoiw Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62285-i-want-this-for-christmas/#findComment-1481370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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