kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) grabbed this off mvgroup.org - it's the best documentary i've watched in a long time. 4 parts - melody, rhythm, bass, and harmony - of which i've watched the first two so far. melody covers pentatonic scales and mediaeval plainsong, then two-part counterpoint, then modes and the birth of minor/major scales, the blues, and the influence of early american music on the rest of the world. features some early plainsong, mid-period english music, some classical music, blind lemon jefferson, coldplay, dionne warwick, and simon and garfunkel. rhythm covers time signatures, swing and syncopation, polyrhythms, rap, cuban music, and the way that contemporary music fuses all these together. includes stuff from philip glass, handel, dvorak, celtic music, grandmaster flash, roberta flack, stevie wonder, and an awesome version of the brandenburg concerto played on 4 nord leads (!) it's written and presented by howard goodall, an extremely learned musicologist and classical musician. i think it's all on youtube. very, very recommended. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnbOWi6f_IM Edited December 31, 2010 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Definitely have to check this out man. Cheers Kaini. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1486936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Yeah, this is fantastic jazz. I love this documentary. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1486951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 jazz? not to my memory. link or it didn't happen. also everyone should join mvgroup.org. best torrent site. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1486956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 i just meant jazz as in it's been out for quite some time... expanding the boundaries of jazz (free jazz?) anyway it's a great link :sup: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1486962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) i also recently watched this 4-part history of sacred music - highly recommended as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyITkB7gnbk draws some very interesting parallels between developments in architecture and music. also available on mvgroup Edited December 31, 2010 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1486964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ranky Redlof Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 never seen this, thanks! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycase Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 What does Jazz mean? Is it sarcasm to call something jazz? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 jazz -> jazzband -> -> this particular nugget of information has been posted before. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 On 12/31/2010 at 9:21 PM, luke viia said: i just meant jazz as in it's been out for quite some time... expanding the boundaries of jazz (free jazz?) anyway it's a great link :sup: It's only jazz if it's been posted to watmm before. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 This is super awesome. Much thanks for posting. On 12/31/2010 at 11:25 PM, kaini said: jazz -> jazzband -> -> this particular nugget of information has been posted before. I like this version (regardless of whether or not you like Mr. Oberst, it's quite impressive): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW0ulJ5QCcw Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oh my Christ. Permaban. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 On 1/2/2011 at 11:33 PM, Gary C said: Oh my Christ. Permaban. Pfffft. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 i grabbed the first sacred music this year, and then skimmed and went fuckit and fuck him. soz for being a less than benign git about things, but some things grate. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1487934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 "I am sailing" isn't pentatonic. Simplistic and shit though this doc undoubtedly is, it could at least be accurate. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 On 1/3/2011 at 3:48 AM, jim said: "I am sailing" isn't pentatonic. Simplistic and shit though this doc undoubtedly is, it could at least be accurate. The melody is. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 no, it isn't. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) dee da dee dee dee da dee dee dee da dee dee dee da dee See edit: missed out a dee Edited January 3, 2011 by kakapo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) On 1/3/2011 at 4:03 AM, jim said: no, it isn't. count the different notes in the melody. five (plus a sixth, which is the first replicated an octave up). pentatonic. edit: actually there's more... it's basically pentatonic though. anyway, i'm going to take howard goodall's word over yours. he knows his shit. Edited January 3, 2011 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) got a midi keyboard? Try playing that on the black notes. You'll find that you need to play a B natural. Not pentatonic. C#D#F#F# A#C#D#D# D#C#B NATURAL C#B NATURAL A# and so forth, transposed to any pitch level. p.s. take whatever word you like, I'm still correct. Edited January 3, 2011 by jim Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) i can go one better. pentatonic is often taken as what is commonly also called the blues scale (minus passing notes). three octaves of the scale you're talking about - the common interpretation of E pentatonic - in guitar tab E|---------------------0- B|-----------------0-3---- G|-------------0-2-------- D|---------0-2------------ A|-----0-2---------------- E|-0-3-------------------- ___E_G_A_B_D_E_G_A_B_D_E but it literally just means 'five tones' or 'five notes'. Edited January 3, 2011 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) what on earth is that supposed to be? Why are the black notes grouped in twos only? oh i see the ends are cut off. Well I'm still right, the f shouldn't be there. and look, i'm a graduate of the Royal College of Music. I know what a feckin pentatonic scale is. Edited January 3, 2011 by jim Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 On 1/3/2011 at 4:29 AM, jim said: oh i see the ends are cut off. Well I'm still right, the f shouldn't be there. would you like the midi so you can listen to it? http://humphreyplugg.kaen.org/sailing_melody.mid Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 that was nice, panpipey. Still not pentatonic. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deep Fried Everything Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 awesome. all over it! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62605-how-music-works/#findComment-1488081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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