how music works

grabbed this off mvgroup.org - it's the best documentary i've watched in a long time.

4 parts - melody, rhythm, bass, and harmony - of which i've watched the first two so far.

melody covers pentatonic scales and mediaeval plainsong, then two-part counterpoint, then modes and the birth of minor/major scales, the blues, and the influence of early american music on the rest of the world. features some early plainsong, mid-period english music, some classical music, blind lemon jefferson, coldplay, dionne warwick, and simon and garfunkel.

rhythm covers time signatures, swing and syncopation, polyrhythms, rap, cuban music, and the way that contemporary music fuses all these together. includes stuff from philip glass, handel, dvorak, celtic music, grandmaster flash, roberta flack, stevie wonder, and an awesome version of the brandenburg concerto played on 4 nord leads (!)

it's written and presented by howard goodall, an extremely learned musicologist and classical musician.

i think it's all on youtube. very, very recommended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnbOWi6f_IM

Definitely have to check this out man. Cheers Kaini.

Yeah, this is fantastic jazz. I love this documentary.

jazz? not to my memory. link or it didn't happen.

also everyone should join mvgroup.org. best torrent site.

i just meant jazz as in it's been out for quite some time... expanding the boundaries of jazz (free jazz?)

anyway it's a great link :sup:

i also recently watched this 4-part history of sacred music - highly recommended as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyITkB7gnbk

draws some very interesting parallels between developments in architecture and music. also available on mvgroup

never seen this, thanks!

What does Jazz mean? Is it sarcasm to call something jazz?

jazz -> jazzband ->

  On 12/31/2010 at 9:21 PM, luke viia said:

i just meant jazz as in it's been out for quite some time... expanding the boundaries of jazz (free jazz?)

 

 

 

anyway it's a great link :sup:

It's only jazz if it's been posted to watmm before.

This is super awesome. Much thanks for posting.

  On 12/31/2010 at 11:25 PM, kaini said:

jazz -> jazzband ->

-> this particular nugget of information has been posted before.

I like this version (regardless of whether or not you like Mr. Oberst, it's quite impressive):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW0ulJ5QCcw

Oh my Christ. Permaban.

  On 1/2/2011 at 11:33 PM, Gary C said:

Oh my Christ. Permaban.

Pfffft.

i grabbed the first sacred music this year, and then skimmed and went fuckit and fuck him. soz for being a less than benign git about things, but some things grate.

"I am sailing" isn't pentatonic. Simplistic and shit though this doc undoubtedly is, it could at least be accurate.

  On 1/3/2011 at 3:48 AM, jim said:

"I am sailing" isn't pentatonic. Simplistic and shit though this doc undoubtedly is, it could at least be accurate.

The melody is.

no, it isn't.

dee da dee dee dee da dee dee dee da dee dee dee da dee

See

edit: missed out a dee

  On 1/3/2011 at 4:03 AM, jim said:

no, it isn't.

count the different notes in the melody. five (plus a sixth, which is the first replicated an octave up). pentatonic.

edit: actually there's more... it's basically pentatonic though.

anyway, i'm going to take howard goodall's word over yours. he knows his shit.

got a midi keyboard? Try playing that on the black notes. You'll find that you need to play a B natural. Not pentatonic.

C#D#F#F# A#C#D#D# D#C#B NATURAL C#B NATURAL A#

and so forth, transposed to any pitch level.

p.s. take whatever word you like, I'm still correct.

i can go one better. pentatonic is often taken as what is commonly also called the blues scale (minus passing notes).

three octaves of the scale you're talking about - the common interpretation of E pentatonic - in guitar tab

E|---------------------0-
B|-----------------0-3----
G|-------------0-2--------
D|---------0-2------------
A|-----0-2----------------
E|-0-3--------------------
___E_G_A_B_D_E_G_A_B_D_E

but it literally just means 'five tones' or 'five notes'.

what on earth is that supposed to be? Why are the black notes grouped in twos only?

oh i see the ends are cut off. Well I'm still right, the f shouldn't be there.

and look, i'm a graduate of the Royal College of Music. I know what a feckin pentatonic scale is.

  On 1/3/2011 at 4:29 AM, jim said:

oh i see the ends are cut off. Well I'm still right, the f shouldn't be there.

would you like the midi so you can listen to it?

http://humphreyplugg.kaen.org/sailing_melody.mid

that was nice, panpipey. Still not pentatonic.

awesome. all over it!