Let's terraform Mars

Why not amirite?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYtBSqkbmw

No. I prefer a Mars that doesn't have Hilton's and Starbucks.

mars is for men and venus is for penis/

  On 1/12/2011 at 5:53 AM, data said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYtBSqkbmw

 

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  On 1/12/2011 at 6:10 AM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

  On 1/12/2011 at 5:53 AM, data said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYtBSqkbmw

 

 

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the closest thing to a manual i've read for it is kim stanley robinson's mars trilogy

excellent, extremely plausible science fiction which deals with very real questions like separate political factions developing on mars, some of whom are earth-seperatist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy

  On 1/12/2011 at 11:59 AM, kaini said:

the closest thing to a manual i've read for it is kim stanley robinson's mars trilogy

 

excellent, extremely plausible science fiction which deals with very real questions like separate political factions developing on mars, some of whom are earth-seperatist

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy

awesome, i'll check this out.

terraforming mars is something i've been thinking about a lot recently. afaik the main issue is how to make the core liquid, for the magnetic field to form. that would help protecting the colonies from the solar storms.

well, that and water :)

it even isn't that cold up there, i was quite surprised to read that the temperatures are up to -5 deg celcius!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars

  On 1/12/2011 at 1:19 PM, kokoon said:

  On 1/12/2011 at 11:59 AM, kaini said:

the closest thing to a manual i've read for it is kim stanley robinson's mars trilogy

 

excellent, extremely plausible science fiction which deals with very real questions like separate political factions developing on mars, some of whom are earth-seperatist

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy

awesome, i'll check this out.

 

terraforming mars is something i've been thinking about a lot recently. afaik the main issue is how to make the core liquid, for the magnetic field to form. that would help protecting the colonies from the solar storms.

 

well, that and water :)

 

it even isn't that cold up there, i was quite surprised to read that the temperatures are up to -5 deg celcius!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars

they go the domed city/algae/greenhouse gas route in those books

he normally writes historical fiction, so robinson is well qualified for the job.

they build a space elevator and attach it to phobos and... well, i won't spoil it for you, but halfway through the first book in the series there's a crowning moment of awesome involving it :)

bet we could put in one helluva golf course

  On 1/12/2011 at 1:26 PM, kaini said:

they go the domed city/algae/greenhouse gas route in those books

cool, i read somewhere about the greenhouse gas route and it seemed pretty viable. if we're talking about a method to simultaneously warm up the atmosphere and provide CO2 for plants to produce oxygen.

This is how it started

yeah the most realistic way would be to pump that shit full of enough CO2 to bring the temp down so liquid water can form. the only forseeable problem would be pumping too much CO2 into the atmosphere. can we take some back out? can we do that here on earf?

edit- that shit about cfcs is a little scary

  On 1/12/2011 at 3:10 PM, theSun said:

yeah the most realistic way would be to pump that shit full of enough CO2 to bring the temp down so liquid water can form. the only forseeable problem would be pumping too much CO2 into the atmosphere. can we take some back out? can we do that here on earf?

complex question... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration

  On 1/12/2011 at 3:16 PM, kaini said:

  On 1/12/2011 at 3:10 PM, theSun said:

yeah the most realistic way would be to pump that shit full of enough CO2 to bring the temp down so liquid water can form. the only forseeable problem would be pumping too much CO2 into the atmosphere. can we take some back out? can we do that here on earf?

 

complex question... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration

fuck yeah, we could just send some of our (excessive) CO2 over to mars. two planets 'repaired', humankind saved. continue to the next planet.

how much of CO2 would planet mars need in order for the chain reaction (releasing carbon from the soil due to warming up) to start?

the scientific term is 'a fucking shitload'

if you think earth's CO2 level is excessive, check out venus, the byproduct of a runaway greenhouse effect

but mars would probably stabilize sooner, it's quite a bit further from the sun after all. or not?

yeah, that would have a bearing on things. the key is getting the balance right... it's a system with many variables. if you were to introduce an algae or lichen, it would speed up CO2 production, but it would also increase albedo... it's like a calculus equation with about 30 variables.

Nah, lets got to Pluto

Mars is where it's at

The only reason i would go into space is because we would probably have to drink each others pee. If we dont have to drink each others pee, i'll just stay where i am.

  On 1/12/2011 at 3:10 PM, theSun said:

yeah the most realistic way would be to pump that shit full of enough CO2 to bring the temp down so liquid water can form. the only forseeable problem would be pumping too much CO2 into the atmosphere. can we take some back out? can we do that here on earf?

so we don't have to use these??