Guest Helper ET Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 i want to build my own synth. ive been slowly introducing myself to electronics, and i understand that there is a point where you need to use complex math does anyone here have any experience with electronics? what level of math are we are dealing with? i always hated math in school and wasnt very good at it. im willing to learn now though, as the reward would be well worth it. when i was in school, i always told myself i would never need math...oh the irony anyway, if this is something i can handle, i think ill begin a study regiment, and spend about an hour a day learning electronics and math cheers Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) it's not too hard really. i think you'll find that it gets easy when you can actually apply the maths, as opposed to just learning it blindly in school. i studied electronics for a while but got distracted by general life. thinking of getting back into it! Edited February 8, 2011 by modey Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) I'v met a bloke who used to fix and design his own analogues which was always a side earner to the pro electronic he was trained in (having a masters I think). Considering he didn't design the stuff he was fixing he really was very cleaver at following the circuit design path and understanding how it works. on the on the hand I've heard of some very reputable synth designers that aren't actually that well qualified in dedicated electronics but know how to nick other designs and shove them together kinda like a car mechanic rather than a mechanical engineer kinda way I'd recommend checking out various synth schematics and having a go at those kit modualr like synthesiser.com there really isn't that much in a regular analogue circuit board if you want to get into it however inventing you own custom shit may take a little more know how especially when digital control comes into play it may take a while to become like dave smith I'm happy with my G2 Edited February 8, 2011 by soundwave Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 AFX Wannabe Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxing Day's signature Hide all signatures I HOPE THIS MATCH NEVER ENDS - Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ezkerraldean Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 maths maths abbreviation of "mathematics" which is a plural automobiles -> autos mathematics -> maths Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 On 2/8/2011 at 2:48 AM, ET said: i want to build my own synth. ive been slowly introducing myself to electronics, and i understand that there is a point where you need to use complex math does anyone here have any experience with electronics? what level of math are we are dealing with? i always hated math in school and wasnt very good at it. im willing to learn now though, as the reward would be well worth it. when i was in school, i always told myself i would never need math...oh the irony anyway, if this is something i can handle, i think ill begin a study regiment, and spend about an hour a day learning electronics and math cheers damn kids telling themselves they'll never need math(s)... you'll be dealing with something like college algebra & some pre-calculus (the number e shows up a lot in electronics, as do complex numbers) if you're new to electronics, this is a good site: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babar Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 play minecraft and learn to use redstone circuits ! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 On 2/8/2011 at 6:10 AM, luke viia said: damn kids telling themselves they'll never need math(s)... it's because it isn't taught properly in schools. kids need to know why they're going to need that knowledge. well at least i did. if i'd known that it is used in electronics, i probably would have paid attention. you end up learning it in electronics courses anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 hey guys thanks this is great (thanks luke) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) I agree that it isn't always taught properly...i'm lucky to currently have a math professor I really enjoy, but a poor teacher can really stifle things. as for that last part, difference of opinions/experiences I guess. Math for the sake of itself matters to me, practical application or no. I wasn't taught too much math in my electronics classes, it was expected knowledge. differences again i guess. np ET, good luck man Edited February 8, 2011 by luke viia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sensi Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 http://www.amazon.com/Engineering-Mathematics-K-Stroud/dp/0831133279 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 On 2/8/2011 at 7:21 AM, Oscar said: http://www.amazon.com/Engineering-Mathematics-K-Stroud/dp/0831133279 ^This, oh and this. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 From doing circuits for 1 year,this was all I needed to know. On 2/8/2011 at 6:58 AM, xxx said: On 2/8/2011 at 3:36 AM, ezkerraldean said: maths maths abbreviation of "mathematics" which is a plural automobiles -> autos mathematics -> maths fillet fillet pronounced "fi-LAY" which is a French, not "fill-it" controversy contro-versy not "con-TROV-ersy" the point is that if you say maths in America, people would wonder what the fuck you're on about because I've been from kindergarten to graduate school and no one ever says "maths". I didn't know about pluralizing it until WATMM and the BBC. You're more likely to hear the particular strand--calculus? trigonometry? algebra? jus' sayin' granted, you're Canadian and may say "fil-LAY" but what's Canada? A little Lime, a little Frog, all European...I am being totally tongue-in-cheek btw no offense meant I say con-tro-versy. And now were back to the "I could/couldn't care less" thing. Think about what the sentence is supposed to mean, then say it. Oh well, who gives a shit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Aluminium Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide spratters's signature Hide all signatures Jet fuel can't melt dank memes Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al5x Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 MATH fuck you Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 im not experienced but a quick wikipedia search shows that additive synthesis involes fourier transformations, this is prbably entry to mid level calculus Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hardcode's signature Hide all signatures www.soundcloud.com/hardcode Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ezkerraldean Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 On 2/8/2011 at 6:58 AM, xxx said: granted, you're Canadian and may say "fil-LAY" but what's Canada? A little Lime, a little Frog, all European...I am being totally tongue-in-cheek btw no offense meant lolz, i'd never heard limey before until i came to canada actually Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tontonz1 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 http://www.tutor-homework.com/Math_Help/Calculus.html 2 years of turmoil compressed into a website Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tontonz1's signature Hide all signatures http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Dustbowl/135410776569898 -- My college radio show Deltatones - Delvitude Le porn Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 i'm on the first year of a sound engineering course. i've been told on the selection interview that the course is full of maths, and that it would be better to take the math classes that they teach there, they call it "audio applied maths", but what it really is in fact is the random math that is taught on every's university 1st year, so i quit the math classes. every time i feel a little trouble at math related problems on other classes, i can count on my colleagues to bump me up, or spend some money on a private teacher to give me some hints. so far the only advanced math i've been taught was exclusively for deducing main formulas to be used further ahead. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 audio electronics is gonna start next semester :sup: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Why don't you just learn max/msp first like you were planning to do a couple of years ago. It'll teach you the main steps towards synthesis without getting your fingers burnt (literally) with faffing about with electronics. It will also teach you about the main mathematical principles required towards sound creation too. And if you don't want to go for the expense of Max then get the free 'clone' - http://puredata.info Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 277: 930-933 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 You can just get electricity from the wall no need to make it all complicated, silly! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 On 2/8/2011 at 3:18 AM, Boxing Day said: AFX Wannabe a myth Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Multivariable calculus made my balls fall off. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
National Park Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 allaboutcircuits.com was my bible through my first and second year. i'd recommend buying something like the Gakken SX-150 since its quite a nice simple synth circuit and basically built to be modded. Theres a ton of schematics and hacks knocking around the web which'll run you through the basics. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/63647-learning-math-for-electronics/#findComment-1512794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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