when a snare and a bass drum play at the same time in a sequence

it sounds okay ….not like a total clam

ever notice that?

Myself I've never noticed drum machines sounding particularly assy in that regard.

Usually that sounds really satisfying...

^Yeah, I find when the beat goes

bawm

tish

bawm

tish

there's a certain lack of oomph. Good for ending a beat but not so much for sustaining one. Better to do

bawm

bawm tish

bawm

bawm tish

I don't know man, there's been plenty of four on the floor heavy electronic genres since I can remember, and they manage to get their snares in there on the twos and fours every so often without it sounding assy. Just got to blend your sounds together, try taking out some below 100hz on the snare, likewise clean up your kick around 180-240ish to get out of the way of the meat of the snare. EQ MY DAWG.

wrong snares obviously

  On 3/4/2011 at 2:12 AM, blacks said:

I don't know man, there's been plenty of four on the floor heavy electronic genres since I can remember, and they manage to get their snares in there on the twos and fours every so often without it sounding assy. Just got to blend your sounds together, try taking out some below 100hz on the snare, likewise clean up your kick around 180-240ish to get out of the way of the meat of the snare. EQ MY DAWG.

oh i agree

that"disco beat" is the only exception

but its not a beat i ever use in my own productions

ed dmx is king of that shit and its not for me really

just like cooking a 5 star cuisine you gotta balance just the right seasoning on your ingredients to get them to blend together like magic. bass drums can blend with snares like gold if you EQ/compress/volumize the right choice of sounds.

I guess one could argue in music with live instruments (including drums), there's more emphasis on the tune itself. With electronic music there tends to be more attention given to the sound quality. So maybe a beat that would sound okayly EQed in some other type of music might not not sound okay in beaty electro music.

when a kick and a snare love each other very much......

...disco

  On 3/4/2011 at 2:12 AM, blacks said:

I don't know man, there's been plenty of four on the floor heavy electronic genres since I can remember, and they manage to get their snares in there on the twos and fours every so often without it sounding assy. Just got to blend your sounds together, try taking out some below 100hz on the snare, likewise clean up your kick around 180-240ish to get out of the way of the meat of the snare. EQ MY DAWG.

but then when the snare plays alone it sounds assy

lol @ thread

in fact, i wonder about this every day, never been able to mix snare with kick decently

  On 3/5/2011 at 8:19 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 3/4/2011 at 2:12 AM, blacks said:

I don't know man, there's been plenty of four on the floor heavy electronic genres since I can remember, and they manage to get their snares in there on the twos and fours every so often without it sounding assy. Just got to blend your sounds together, try taking out some below 100hz on the snare, likewise clean up your kick around 180-240ish to get out of the way of the meat of the snare. EQ MY DAWG.

but then when the snare plays alone it sounds assy

..use better snares? zole

do i have to make them better, or get better ones??

what is "better" when referring to snares?

Venetian snares.

fugin noobs + trolls = teh facepalm

OP is a fucking idiot.

Don't ever let two percussion elements play at the same time! That's not how you do it!

i used to hate four on the floor drum patterns too but i soon got over my elitism and actually started using them in my tracks. i kinda prefer straight drum patterns these days.

  On 3/6/2011 at 1:49 AM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

do i have to make them better, or get better ones??

 

what is "better" when referring to snares?

well, start using snares that sound good on their own as well as in combination with bassdrums! i dunno what other advice to give, depends on what kind of sound you're after.

You could sample the kick and snare as played by a real drummer. Problem solved. Or any of the above suggestions. With regards to the snare losing its oomph when heard alone after rolling off some lower mids: you could set-up an alternate track without the notched out EQ for whenever that happens... though that's kind of silly and shouldn't be necessary. It would still work.

white noise snare, sine tone kick. then play with enveloping and filtering until you die.

  On 3/6/2011 at 4:15 AM, Retape said:

OP is a fucking idiot.

wow that was harsh. I was drunk and angry. sry bout that.

I have no idea what you're talking about, though.