funkaholic Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 "Discover the new cutting edge of synthesis with RAZOR – a refreshing, truly new instrument based on additive synthesis. Created by maverick Berlin producer Errorsmith in partnership with NATIVE INSTRUMENTS, RAZOR has a characteristically dynamic and precise sound suited to tense basses, bristling leads and shifting, sci-fi soundscapes. " http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/powered-by-reaktor/razor/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvG8Mj9Ukyk His music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E7EDU-aZ7A Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Quote a refreshing, truly new instrument shenanigans. but i'm sure it's good, even if it's not TRULY NEW and REFRESHING Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1548296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iamabe Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) cool thang, pretty Edited March 31, 2011 by iamabe Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1548495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeyemusik Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 On 3/31/2011 at 8:06 PM, hahathhat said: Quote a refreshing, truly new instrument shenanigans. but i'm sure it's good, even if it's not TRULY NEW and REFRESHING it's probably as TRULY NEW and REFRESHING as we're likely to get these days. which is probably not all that much. It does look to have some interesting filter and oscillator types. It's also quite interesting in so far as it creates it's effects from doing maths on the additive waves. I'm quite tempted to splash the cash on it but given the majority of ropey dubstep demos floating about Soundcloud etc there is a feeling that the "Razor" sound will become cliche in a matter of hours. this video is probably the best wank-free explanation of what it's about: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeyemusik's signature Hide all signatures http://jeye.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1548565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 so do any other Reaktor users find it an extremely frustrating situation that NI releases these amazing plugins (the mouth, finger, razor, etc) in reaktor player format, but they are to my knowledge completely uneditable in Reaktor itself. Why in the hell does NI tease us like this, im seriously mad! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1548576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) On 4/1/2011 at 1:15 AM, Awepittance said: so do any other Reaktor users find it an extremely frustrating situation that NI releases these amazing plugins (the mouth, finger, razor, etc) in reaktor player format, but they are to my knowledge completely uneditable in Reaktor itself. Why in the hell does NI tease us like this, im seriously mad! Have you tried it ? You can totally use it in reaktor 5.5 and it's editable.I'm currently messing with it. Edited April 1, 2011 by the anonymous forumite Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1549141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 On 4/1/2011 at 12:50 AM, jeyemusik said: this video is probably the best wank-free explanation of what it's about: this guy has the most comforting voice ever Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1549349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeyemusik Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I'd heard that you can save the Reaktor Player files as normal Ensembles tho it's something I've not tried yet. I only have the MikroPrism freebie in that format but I've been meaning to play about with it to add a few more controls like a proper ADSR for a kick-off. I suspect when I do get Razor I'll just end up baffled by the maths. On 4/1/2011 at 7:37 PM, ganus said: On 4/1/2011 at 12:50 AM, jeyemusik said: this video is probably the best wank-free explanation of what it's about: this guy has the most comforting voice ever almost, but it's actually Bob Ross.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeyemusik's signature Hide all signatures http://jeye.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1549427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 On 4/1/2011 at 4:03 PM, the anonymous forumite said: On 4/1/2011 at 1:15 AM, Awepittance said: so do any other Reaktor users find it an extremely frustrating situation that NI releases these amazing plugins (the mouth, finger, razor, etc) in reaktor player format, but they are to my knowledge completely uneditable in Reaktor itself. Why in the hell does NI tease us like this, im seriously mad! Have you tried it ? You can totally use it in reaktor 5.5 and it's editable.I'm currently messing with it. i haven't tried it yet no, i just assumed it was like the other standalone ensembles they've been putting out, which are not editable Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1549438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 additive synths are pretty cool but really unintuitive to create sounds with at their core. Though they probably did a good job with it, can you load samples and have it mirror the sound additively? There was another one that does that. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1549794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeyemusik Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 On 4/1/2011 at 9:12 PM, Awepittance said: i haven't tried it yet no, i just assumed it was like the other standalone ensembles they've been putting out, which are not editable No, you can edit their recent standalone ensembles. You open the RKLP file (or whatever the file format is) in the full version of Reaktor then you can save snaps, edit the structure and when you go to save you can then save as an ENS with your changes. You might need to have the standalone ensemble registered in the Service Centre but I'm pretty sure I've done this with the MikroPrism freebie they're giving away. If you want to try it out yourself, go get MikroPrism and give it a go - it's a pretty nice albeit feature limited physical modelling synth. On 4/2/2011 at 4:01 AM, Bubba69 said: additive synths are pretty cool but really unintuitive to create sounds with at their core. Though they probably did a good job with it, can you load samples and have it mirror the sound additively? There was another one that does that. Yeah, that was Alchemy by Camel Audio that did that. I don't believe Razor will do that. I think one of the main ideas behind it is to take the unintuitive aspects and dress it up in an interface that will be very familiar to users of the more traditional substractive synths. So you are getting a good blend of both worlds. Not tried it yet so can't comment directly but probably will soon.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeyemusik's signature Hide all signatures http://jeye.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1550046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 "and it EVEN has an OSCILLOSCOPE" and "in a WHOLE different WAY" x10 We shall see. *farts self to sleep* Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FLA FUR BIS FLE's signature Hide all signatures through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1550122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest illfly mandog Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 On 4/2/2011 at 4:01 AM, Bubba69 said: additive synths are pretty cool but really unintuitive to create sounds with at their core. disagree. i tried using subtractive synths for a while but was un impressed with the sound capabilities. so then i tried fm stuff. i grabbed on almost immediately and can make stuff really quickly and intuitively. fmftw Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1550125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultravisitor Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 On 4/2/2011 at 3:46 PM, thanks robert moses said: "in a WHOLE different WAY" x10 that cracked me up :) ...its still cracking me up i'm gonna go and watch more videos by him Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1550293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 On 4/2/2011 at 10:21 AM, jeyemusik said: On 4/1/2011 at 9:12 PM, Awepittance said: i haven't tried it yet no, i just assumed it was like the other standalone ensembles they've been putting out, which are not editable No, you can edit their recent standalone ensembles. You open the RKLP file (or whatever the file format is) in the full version of Reaktor then you can save snaps, edit the structure and when you go to save you can then save as an ENS with your changes. You might need to have the standalone ensemble registered in the Service Centre but I'm pretty sure I've done this with the MikroPrism freebie they're giving away. If you want to try it out yourself, go get MikroPrism and give it a go - it's a pretty nice albeit feature limited physical modelling synth. you've just blown my mind Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1550302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeyemusik Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 No problem, glad to help. Anyway, so I've since bought Razor and have spent some time playing about with it. In some ways I really like it as it has a distinctive sound to it but in other ways the architecture feels very safe and perhaps slightly limiting. It could almost be quite a bi-polar synth in that when it's being put to more traditionally musical tasks it's sound will be very obvious but when used in a more experimental way then there could be some quite interesting tones and tonal shifts. Though, I do reckon it's only a question of time before the presets start popping up all over the place. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with it and I'll probably get some good mileage out of it. I did have a brief look at the structure which is pretty overwhelming - it could be a good long time before I'm frankensteining stuff out of it for my own efforts. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeyemusik's signature Hide all signatures http://jeye.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1550880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 On 4/3/2011 at 11:27 PM, jeyemusik said: Though, I do reckon it's only a question of time before the presets start popping up all over the place. I might be wrong but it doesn't seem to me that any self-respecting electronic musician would use presets. I'm lovin the waterbed module by the way. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1551338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Moss Acid Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 On 4/1/2011 at 7:37 PM, ganus said: On 4/1/2011 at 12:50 AM, jeyemusik said: this video is probably the best wank-free explanation of what it's about: this guy has the most comforting voice ever his voice sounds like a disney film trailer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1551382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeyemusik Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 On 4/4/2011 at 6:02 PM, the anonymous forumite said: On 4/3/2011 at 11:27 PM, jeyemusik said: Though, I do reckon it's only a question of time before the presets start popping up all over the place. I might be wrong but it doesn't seem to me that any self-respecting electronic musician would use presets. i'm sure there's a joke about dubstep producers in there just waiting to break out... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeyemusik's signature Hide all signatures http://jeye.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/64994-native-instruments-new-synth-razor/#findComment-1551538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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