i hate this 'release format'

i'm making an 'album'

or is it 2 albums in 1 project?

or a bunch of eps?

or a bunch of tracks?

see, i don't want to keep this music to myself. i want it to be heard. i want to create the best possible 'creation' possible. and it has to be released. no matter what happens, it will be released in some kind of form. even if it is scatter shot, it will still be 'scattershot form.'

my current issue is i have something like 100 new tracks, some small, some big, many different versions, that i've been doing for the past year or so.

it's all been a big part of this project, and i want to make it into one collection, one answer. one website release.

be it a bunch of EPs, or whatever.

but the styles are vastly different. which is fine, that's half what i'm going for.

but it's getting confusing. barely any of the shitload of tracks are finished and i don't know what to work on because i don't want to waste my time.

it's getting to the point where i'm considering just releasing all of the tracks [finished] in one big file and calling it 'daddoo', posting it on facebook,

closing the books, etc

then jumping off of a bridge. just kidding.

so basically, this thread is pretty meaningless, and i'm mostly just venting about my private matters in a place where it's more acceptable.

how does someone 'maximize' the form they're working within.

as artists, we have to choose what form we want to release the music itself. there are traditional forms, EP, LP, collection of EPs, double albums

this might seem silly or pointless, but on closer inspection its actually an integral part of the musical creation process, and the creation itself.

who do we want to hear the creation? do we care if people hear it? if we really don't care, then why release it at all? why?

for me, this album, started as many different things. and it has changed throughout.

from an avant garde digital pop symphony type thing , to a free noise improvisation, to a straightfoward techno dubstep album, to a melodic synthesizer album in the vein of Vangelis or Vibert, to ambient, to rock and roll.

it's fun, and i'm being overly proud with the above description of my project. my pain is real, however.

like, do you plan what the whole album is going to be like as a full creation, or do you do tracks and then pick the best so it resembles a compilation, etc?

Shut up an do what ever you want.

EDIT: Use the enter button less in your posts.

i remember aphex once said in an interview that the way he would decide what to put on an album was just show tracks to his friends and the ones that they liked he would put on the album, I personally think that could totally backfire with my own friends, but it's an idea at least.

That idea would most definitely backfire with my friends... not that they'd pick bad tracks, but the ones that tend to resonate with me most are ones that often get overlooked by them.

vamos, there is no release format.

  On 4/12/2011 at 12:05 AM, vamos scorcho said:

my current issue is i have something like 100 new tracks, some small, some big, many different versions, that i've been doing for the past year or so.

 

it's all been a big part of this project, and i want to make it into one collection, one answer. one website release.

Dude what the fuck are you smoking?

No offense bud but seriously who besides Michael Jackson could release a "collection of 100 new tracks" that ANYBODY Would give a shit about?

Imagine this, you go to this dudes website and you're like "hmm, I've heard this guys sound cloud, he seems legit, I bet his releases are good too." (if you don't think anyone is realistically at THIS stage yet, then you shouldn't even be thinking about releasing anything. Moving on) He checks out your catalogue and HOLY SHIT HES GOT 20 EP's, "what the fuck I don't have time to sort through all this shit!"

Not to bag on you personally but chances are since I've never seen you post any music and I've never even been recommended by anyone to listen to you, your music isn't even so good that one EP would get enough attention to be worth "releasing" let alone TWENTY or so. & don't think I'm saying this from a high horse because I would argue I'm in that position as well.

  On 4/12/2011 at 12:05 AM, vamos scorcho said:

but the styles are vastly different. which is fine, that's half what i'm going for.

Vastly different? Then why release it as a series or a "collection?"

  On 4/12/2011 at 12:05 AM, vamos scorcho said:

but it's getting confusing. barely any of the shitload of tracks are finished and i don't know what to work on because i don't want to waste my time.

  On 4/12/2011 at 12:05 AM, vamos scorcho said:

it's getting to the point where i'm considering just releasing all of the tracks [finished] in one big file and calling it 'daddoo', posting it on facebook,

Nobody would listen to that. Trust me. A fraction of the close friends you ask to listen to it will but seriously a HUNDRED tracks? If fucking Aphex Twin himself released a 100 tracks tonight I'd probably take a few months to get around to all of them, I might even skip some if they sounded like they might be boring.

  On 4/12/2011 at 12:05 AM, vamos scorcho said:

for me, this album, started as many different things. and it has changed throughout.

from an avant garde digital pop symphony type thing , to a free noise improvisation, to a straightfoward techno dubstep album, to a melodic synthesizer album in the vein of Vangelis or Vibert, to ambient, to rock and roll.

This does not sound like something anybody would be interested in as a collection.

With all these threads you make brother, I have to wonder how confident you are in your music.

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i'm very confident and happy with my abilities, however i don't know what to do with the stuff i have. i haven't posted the album i'm working on because i didn't much want anyone to connect the dots between the 'artist/music' and my persona here. if you want to hear my music you should check out http://corncat.bandcamp.com/album/wolf-blue

anyway, this thread is about how you release the music when it is complete.

and what you hope to gain by releasing it.

IMO there is definitely a release format, viia. no matter how you release it, it is a format. be it a couple tracks in a set on soundcloud or a mediafire file. and then where you post it and how you spread it around the internet.

what i mean to say is, the release format can be anything you wish. it's not a multiple choice question.

im with chassis here. stfu and tend to your art.

can you dig it vam∞s?

  On 4/12/2011 at 4:31 AM, luke viia said:

what i mean to say is, the release format can be anything you wish. it's not a multiple choice question.

 

can you dig it vam∞s?

i definitely can dig it. i guess i'm mostly wondering how you guys go about this stuff and what the process of creating the full EP / album / release is like for you.

also i'm wasting massive amounts of time bullshitting on the internet because finishing these unfinished tracks is boring

the 'releases' tend to form themselves as the tracks go on - for instance w/ planet of dinosaurs, i didn't realize how i wanted that album to turn out until about 2/3rds of the way through the entire time frame it took to make it. it started off as an attempt to make a chiptune inspired track, and grew from there. other 'releases' have been less coherent, but i try to form an idea / concept for a set of songs as time goes on -- it adds inspiration to other tracks i'm working on (gives them a mold to fit into, so to speak).

diggin wolf blue btw

thanks m∞

  On 4/12/2011 at 4:30 AM, vamos scorcho said:

http://corncat.bandcamp.com/album/wolf-blue

 

Way better than I expected

CALL THEM HALOS LIKE TRENT REZNOR AND THE NIZZY NINE !

if you haven't really established yourself you may be better off releasing a few eps rather than one lp.

meh, I get annoyed by the amount of EP releases for some reason. I'd way rather download an LP by somebody so I have a more comprehensive overview of their music.

  On 4/12/2011 at 6:42 AM, Bubba69 said:

meh, I get annoyed by the amount of EP releases for some reason. I'd way rather download an LP by somebody so I have a more comprehensive overview of their music.

This. It's easy to release 2-track singles and being called the innovator of a genre.

ok, serious reply.

now that we're all mp3s and vinyl is for collectors, EP, album, LP etc. form a certain language. when you say it's an EP, you're saying something about the release. ditto for calling it an LP or an album. you phrase it in these terms in order to guide the impression of potential listeners. i think vamos is chafing against having to constrain himself to these terms, which i can completely understand. it never bothered me, but i'd say he'd be entirely within his rights to make up bizarre terms like a "3D-P" or something. as long as it was properly explained, and made a modicum of sense....

but these are silly labels, really. if a release is amazing, it's amazing.... no matter whether it is an EP or LP or compilation or what !

That is true. That is all I will say because I can't think of anything else to say lol.

i always loved the recording modes of VHS tapes: EP/LP/SP/SLP

i'd look at SLP when i was 8 and think SMB.... (super mario brothers)

put all your tracks on a USB stick and throw it in the sea

kaen's answer still stands undefeated. something about writing "rephlex" on CD-R and bunging out the front door

  On 4/12/2011 at 11:10 AM, BCM said:

put all your tracks on a USB stick and throw it in the sea

Romantic

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I'd say, like it actually have been said before, releasing all this stuff in one file would be IMO a very bad idea because in the best possible case, some people that don't know how to spend their time would MAYBE take an ear to it (i.e. listening to one or two or maybe ten tracks of it).

I know artists don't all pay attention to the way they release their music in the same level, but, if the music you're talking about could fit this kind of release, I'd recommend you to make kind of EPs (sorry for that word ) from your tracks collection, grouping the ones that goes well together, and thinking about a logical way to order the releases. Then find a general project name for all these tracks and release them separately every two months plus prepare some crazy artworks for each release. If the music is good and homogeneous despite the fact it goes from some genres to very different ones, people could actually forgot that differences. At least the open-minded ones.

So my point is you should think about a solution to present the tracks as all belonging to one collection, and at the same time play on the fact they are very different.

Anyway I don't think their is a "common" way to release all these tracks, and that way would be the one I'd proceed, that was just my opinion. Good luck to you !

PS : using enter many times in the start post made me read it actually, I'm not sure I would have if you didn't do that