wahrk Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Here is my challenge for you EKTers: Write an entire song from start to finish without opening your DAW or turning on your hardware. You must plot out the whole song from beginning to end. The prewritten form can take whatever form you like. You don't have to actually write each part if you don't want to. You can use descriptive words for instruments, parts, sections, and/or transitions and just go from there if you want. No, you don't have to stick strictly to what you've written out once you start producing it, but it should be close. Do whatever, just stick to the idea of preconception. Have a feel for what the song will be like and how it will develop and where it will go. Post it here when you're done, including the outline if possible. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlucharski Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 oki thats a nice idea, but how do I try out the chords n stuff, if I can't turn on hardware or daw ? Or is that not a part of the preconcept? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide schlucharski's signature Hide all signatures this is not a statement Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) On 4/18/2011 at 10:25 AM, schlucharski said: oki thats a nice idea, but how do I try out the chords n stuff, if I can't turn on hardware or daw ? Or is that not a part of the preconcept? The way I'm thinking of it is like a skeleton of gists and ideas. The way I do it is just with words or approximate melodies in my head. Don't feel like you have to write out "D Fm Bm Em A" or whatever. Try to think of it as the simplest way you could describe a song. Just the general stuff. Particulars come later. Edited April 18, 2011 by wahrk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlucharski Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 ok I m on it (unfortunatly I m at work :(() as soon as I get home... :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide schlucharski's signature Hide all signatures this is not a statement Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Sometimes I'll try writing stuff out as sheet music before I actually make it. Like this one from last year... http://soundcloud.com/cryptowen/12-getting-away I'll try to make a new one so I can do this thread more proper. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 awesome idea I will try later It would be weird if we exchange these concepts and see how the songs turn out in the end. reminds me a bit of the concept of this guy: http://songstowearpantsto.com/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 On 4/18/2011 at 12:40 PM, o00o said: It would be weird if we exchange these concepts and see how the songs turn out in the end. That sounds awesome! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 quiet bit, loud bit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 On 4/18/2011 at 7:30 PM, BCM said: quiet bit, loud bit. Writing a Pixies song? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 damn straight Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1562619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 On 4/18/2011 at 10:14 AM, wahrk said: Here is my challenge for you EKTers: Write an entire song from start to finish without opening your DAW or turning on your hardware. You must plot out the whole song from beginning to end. The prewritten form can take whatever form you like. You don't have to actually write each part if you don't want to. You can use descriptive words for instruments, parts, sections, and/or transitions and just go from there if you want. No, you don't have to stick strictly to what you've written out once you start producing it, but it should be close. Do whatever, just stick to the idea of preconception. Have a feel for what the song will be like and how it will develop and where it will go. Post it here when you're done, including the outline if possible. pen and paper wtf? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 I actually tried this the other day. Didn't turn out as bad as I expected Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drahken Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 I used to do something kind of like this with Reason when bored at work years ago. I didn't have any speakers or headphones I could use at the time, so I'd make a track without any audio just picking random patches and samples as I went, then I'd listen to them in the car on the way home. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 On 4/19/2011 at 4:36 PM, soundwave said: On 4/18/2011 at 10:14 AM, wahrk said: Here is my challenge for you EKTers: Write an entire song from start to finish without opening your DAW or turning on your hardware. You must plot out the whole song from beginning to end. The prewritten form can take whatever form you like. You don't have to actually write each part if you don't want to. You can use descriptive words for instruments, parts, sections, and/or transitions and just go from there if you want. No, you don't have to stick strictly to what you've written out once you start producing it, but it should be close. Do whatever, just stick to the idea of preconception. Have a feel for what the song will be like and how it will develop and where it will go. Post it here when you're done, including the outline if possible. pen and paper wtf? Nowhere were pen and paper mentioned. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 On 4/19/2011 at 9:04 PM, wahrk said: On 4/19/2011 at 4:36 PM, soundwave said: On 4/18/2011 at 10:14 AM, wahrk said: Here is my challenge for you EKTers: Write an entire song from start to finish without opening your DAW or turning on your hardware. You must plot out the whole song from beginning to end. The prewritten form can take whatever form you like. You don't have to actually write each part if you don't want to. You can use descriptive words for instruments, parts, sections, and/or transitions and just go from there if you want. No, you don't have to stick strictly to what you've written out once you start producing it, but it should be close. Do whatever, just stick to the idea of preconception. Have a feel for what the song will be like and how it will develop and where it will go. Post it here when you're done, including the outline if possible. pen and paper wtf? Nowhere were pen and paper mentioned. chalkboard? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 On 4/20/2011 at 1:31 AM, soundwave said: On 4/19/2011 at 9:04 PM, wahrk said: On 4/19/2011 at 4:36 PM, soundwave said: On 4/18/2011 at 10:14 AM, wahrk said: Here is my challenge for you EKTers: Write an entire song from start to finish without opening your DAW or turning on your hardware. You must plot out the whole song from beginning to end. The prewritten form can take whatever form you like. You don't have to actually write each part if you don't want to. You can use descriptive words for instruments, parts, sections, and/or transitions and just go from there if you want. No, you don't have to stick strictly to what you've written out once you start producing it, but it should be close. Do whatever, just stick to the idea of preconception. Have a feel for what the song will be like and how it will develop and where it will go. Post it here when you're done, including the outline if possible. pen and paper wtf? Nowhere were pen and paper mentioned. chalkboard? Whatever you want, however you want to do it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 am i aloud to hum rough tune ideas into a portable tape recorder? That's how i usually come up with stuff in the first place, but in my mind. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 On 4/20/2011 at 1:51 AM, Bubba69 said: am i aloud to hum rough tune ideas into a portable tape recorder? That's how i usually come up with stuff in the first place, but in my mind. Sure. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1563538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlucharski Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I had a very simple musical concept: 1. detuned sine pad, something like that, stringy, voicey, whatever 2. tr808 3. disturbance 4. ????? 5. concrete string thing (composed like fucking Bach) 6. profit The visual concept for that was much more crucial, but talking about that would be gay, as the result is... http://soundcloud.com/conformism/afternoon Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide schlucharski's signature Hide all signatures this is not a statement Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1564236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) On 4/21/2011 at 12:53 AM, schlucharski said: I had a very simple musical concept: http://soundcloud.com/conformism/afternoon I actually quite liked it. Here's my attempt. The intro synthline was written on a piece of paper at work, the rest of it was composed in my head, with some minor tweaks. Not as shite as I expected, actually. http://soundcloud.com/metaphysical-endeavour/garbage Edited April 21, 2011 by Sprigg Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1564477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlucharski Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 On 4/21/2011 at 7:52 AM, Sprigg said: Here's my attempt. The intro synthline was written on a piece of paper at work, the rest of it was composed in my head, with some minor tweaks. Not as shite as I expected, actually. http://soundcloud.com/metaphysical-endeavour/garbage I dig it, nice pad Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide schlucharski's signature Hide all signatures this is not a statement Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1565336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) So, uh, I'm probably going to be working an overnight shift soon with a fair bit of downtime. I plan on writing a bunch of sheet music during those times (not in traditional form, but on graph paper, because that's more techno). I can hear notes pretty well in my head so I hope the results are satisfactory, maybe even a bit more tuneful with thought focused on chord progressions instead of weird beepy boops. Also http://soundcloud.com/cryptowen/guitar-song is a track I wrote a while back with just my head. Edited September 28, 2011 by Cryptowen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1663157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 So you're suggesting starting with the arrangement, away from the computer? That's not actually a bad idea. Another thing I sometimes do on holiday is listen to music and sketch out the rough arrangement or stepsheet or whatever it's called. I find it useful to deconstruct music and work out what it's made up of. If only albums came with the original multitracks as standard... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1666799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 that's fantastic Zoe! I used to draw piano roll when I was bored in class in high school. Not too hard really. This is a great idea! i'll be contributing. :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1667052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted October 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I forgot about this thread! I have been wanting to do this lately, as I think it's a really inspiring way to come up with ideas. Maybe I'll use it for my Mutant Breaks track. Keep 'em comin' guys! <3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65468-the-writing-challenge/#findComment-1669203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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