chaosmachine Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Henry Markram and the Human Brain Project are in talks with EU for $1.61 billion to achieve human brain emulation by 2024. 2024 is just 12.5 years away. So... Once you build it, and it works, is it alive? Can you ethically turn it off? What if you teach it language, and it writes "don't turn me off!"? Can it experience suffering? What if you program it to feel like it's on fire, forever? Does that experience exist, does it mean anything? Or is it just a virtual representation, a terribly complex emoticon? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 This is scary. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 2012 + 12 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Reminds me of that "Jeopardy" playing robot that IBM built. That think was fucking scary good. Was that the same dood? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 But, but... we already have bots that can chat with humans on the internet! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 this is incredibly interesting Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I don't think he's got a hope in hell of doing this to any useful extent in by 2024 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukeHdiszZmE Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Edit Hide Delete Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Computational power that can theoretically simulate a human brain in realtime by 2024? Seems possible. An actual brain model running on that hardware that behaves somewhat human? I doubt it. Edited May 19, 2011 by Ego Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 12.5 years isn't really enough to make something of any significant intelligence. That's probably enough time to make something on par with... Maximus Mischief. Add an extra five years and you'll have the intelligence of a glass of water. I'm no scientist, but I can't see how this will work. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Ya'll aint seen this? Watson's pretty smart Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I don't think they are actually going to be making a 'living' simulation but they can map out a brain in a model and stimulate it in certain ways and see which parts respond to that Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 yeah. this is sort of like the human genome project for the brain, i gather. they'll get it done and it'll be an amazing achievement great for research etc. but it won't be HAL 9000 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 On 5/19/2011 at 12:57 AM, Obel said: 12.5 years isn't really enough to make something of any significant intelligence. That's probably enough time to make something on par with... Maximus Mischief. Add an extra five years and you'll have the intelligence of a glass of water. I'm no scientist, but I can't see how this will work. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 yeah, i don't really think this is an AI project, their premise for getting the data mapped out is already ambitious enough. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 This is a project I can get behind spending obscene amounts of money on. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 what if it's troon? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 If I were Bill Gates I would pay a different group of scientists $5.74 billion to build a more advanced human brain. (WIN95 MOST IDM THING 2011! ) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Franklin Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 there's no way the computer brain will just randomly start fantasizing about hot chicks as much as my brain does. I reject any brain without that most basic of components. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 On 5/19/2011 at 1:43 AM, Bubba69 said: yeah, i don't really think this is an AI project, their premise for getting the data mapped out is already ambitious enough. Exactly, this is not an AI project, just a way to emulate the brain and its cells, that's ambitious enough. There are probably "easier" ways to start developing AIs. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide azatoth's signature Hide all signatures last.fm the biggest illusion is yourself Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 On 5/19/2011 at 5:11 AM, jules said: what if it's troon? then the world truly is doomed. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 [insert apocalyptic paranoid statement here] Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 what if they decide to map out a womans brain? Surely they could get that done by 2014 and have a cool billion still in the bank to spend on other stuff? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 wumins so compelciated tho :( Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I'm sure someone is already hard at work building this in minecraft. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/66258-161-billion-to-build-a-human-brain-simulation-by-2024/#findComment-1584933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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