Blur effect (Ex. Edison from FL Studio)

I've been wondering.

When using FL studio some time ago there was an audio editor that came with the program called Edison, where you could throw in tracks and crop, filter, adjust and what not.

In there was an effect called Blur, and it's actually what the effect did. It sort of stretched out the track a bit, made it very muddy yet with a great deal of depth to it.

Does anyone actually know what this does? Is it just a load of stretching, pitchshifting and reverb? I mean, is it just a bunch of effects, is it algorithms or what?

I'd love to make en example, but Edison has for some reason stopped working for me.

If you look at it as a spectrum, you'll see it blurs the same way as a graphic blur, only horizontal. So it's just like a Photoshop blur, only just from left and right (in time).

photoshop does blur via something called a convolution matrix, i believe. so it may be quite close to convolution reverb, with some other wackiness thrown in.

  On 5/30/2011 at 12:50 PM, a missing sense said:

If you look at it as a spectrum, you'll see it blurs the same way as a graphic blur, only horizontal. So it's just like a Photoshop blur, only just from left and right (in time).

That doesn't really explain anything.

Sounds just like a granulizer.

  On 5/30/2011 at 10:29 PM, MrSparkle666 said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 12:50 PM, a missing sense said:

If you look at it as a spectrum, you'll see it blurs the same way as a graphic blur, only horizontal. So it's just like a Photoshop blur, only just from left and right (in time).

 

That doesn't really explain anything.

more than you did, buddy.

  On 5/30/2011 at 10:29 PM, MrSparkle666 said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 12:50 PM, a missing sense said:

If you look at it as a spectrum, you'll see it blurs the same way as a graphic blur, only horizontal. So it's just like a Photoshop blur, only just from left and right (in time).

 

That doesn't really explain anything.

To be honest that completely explained it for me....

  On 5/30/2011 at 11:50 PM, mcbpete said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 10:29 PM, MrSparkle666 said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 12:50 PM, a missing sense said:

If you look at it as a spectrum, you'll see it blurs the same way as a graphic blur, only horizontal. So it's just like a Photoshop blur, only just from left and right (in time).

 

That doesn't really explain anything.

To be honest that completely explained it for me....

Yeah, if you've ever looked at a spectrometer to analyze a track it's not hard to visualize at all

  On 5/31/2011 at 1:12 AM, hautlle said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 11:50 PM, mcbpete said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 10:29 PM, MrSparkle666 said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 12:50 PM, a missing sense said:

If you look at it as a spectrum, you'll see it blurs the same way as a graphic blur, only horizontal. So it's just like a Photoshop blur, only just from left and right (in time).

 

That doesn't really explain anything.

To be honest that completely explained it for me....

 

Yeah, if you've ever looked at a spectrometer to analyze a track it's not hard to visualize at all

You guys are funny. Anything that adds time domain information will smear an image horizontally on a spectrometer. This is like saying it's just a reverb or delay. It doesn't really tell you much of anything that you didn't already know by listening to it. Fuck it, whatever. If it helps you somehow, so be it.

IL Slicex has similar functionality. Btw, i think that it is convolution-like feature

nah, it's really not that complicated!

every sample get's duplicated a number of times and faded in and out according to the envelope. that get's mixed back together and presto.

the amount slider is the lenght of the blur, the amount of duplicates per sample.

or probably it is with FFT and windows instead of per sample, but the explanation is the same.

so it's like backwards reverb and forwards reverb both applied at once, yeah?

  On 5/30/2011 at 10:47 PM, Adam Beker said:

Sounds just like a granulizer.

Sorry to bump up my own fucking thread, but I just realized I still have questions. Where would I happen to get such a convolution reverb-like plugin that would do these things? I can't get the IT Slicex VST plug-in since it's Windows-only and I run OSX.

Anything? Anyone?

use a plugin that handles IR's and make an impulse response that does this. an easy way of doing this is taking a nice reverb impulse, reversing it and copying the original behind the reversed one.

If you want to copy the exact effect you could run an impulse through the blur effect and record the output of that as your new impulse response.. not sure if it would work though, as I suspect blur is not exactly the same type of algorithm as a reverb, but worth a try.

This is great for OSX:

http://www.michaelnorris.info/software/soundmagic-spectral.html

  On 11/28/2011 at 2:54 PM, Hasselbalch said:

Sorry to bump up my own fucking thread, but I just realized I still have questions. Where would I happen to get such a convolution reverb-like plugin that would do these things? I can't get the IT Slicex VST plug-in since it's Windows-only and I run OSX.

 

Anything? Anyone?

Doesn´t FL STudio have a convolver that does the same?