Guest yikes Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 they don't make em like this anymore i am hard pressed to find a modern equivalent pinko commie executioner /loser or revolutionary author, poet military commadante,teacher, physician,christ like figure for the poor and opressed all by the age of 39 i feel useless and self absorbed by comparison thoughts? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Franklin Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 agreed. on a related note when I turned 25 I became suddenly clinically depressed as I began comparing my life to that of James Joyce, who by that age had already written his "the portrait of the artist as a young man." Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 On 8/17/2011 at 6:58 PM, Franklin said: on a related note when I turned 25 I became suddenly clinically depressed as I began comparing my life to that of James Joyce, who by that age had already written his "the portrait of the artist as a young man." how did you overcome that? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 On 8/17/2011 at 6:44 PM, yikes said: thoughts? he makes for a mean t-shirt Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 something relevant posted 2 days ago on imgur: Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 On 8/18/2011 at 1:03 AM, Super lurker ultra V12 said: something relevant posted 2 days ago on imgur: the problem with this is that its hard to differentiate between what he did for the state and Castro (other than agrarian reform). how ruthless was he compared to Batista? its not hard to understand the man's motivations, for better or worse. I think he was an uncompromising idealist for the worse. Maybe I am not very informed on the crimes against humanity Guevara himself committed. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 (edited) On 8/18/2011 at 1:45 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 8/18/2011 at 1:03 AM, Super lurker ultra V12 said: something relevant posted 2 days ago on imgur: the problem with this is that its hard to differentiate between what he did for the state and Castro (other than agrarian reform). how ruthless was he compared to Batista? its not hard to understand the man's motivations, for better or worse. I think he was an uncompromising idealist for the worse. Maybe I am not very informed on the crimes against humanity Guevara himself committed. well, I think that Guevara's agrarian reform did as much damage to Cuba as Batista's US corporations-friendly policies did. Cuba sure needed to fix their agrarian sector, but you can't expect to change things so quickly and deeply without a following bad reaction from the economy. Maybe a slow and progressive change wasn't possible at the time though. Regarding his crimes against humanity, some people described him as a cold-hearted murderer that killed in order to achieve his goals; from what I read about/by him, I find such description plausible, so I agree with you that he was an idealist of the bad kind. However, I think Batista went farther by using torture more and more frequently towards the end of his dictatorship. Edited August 18, 2011 by Super lurker ultra V12 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 It's almost as if there ARE no entirely altruistic, gentle, incorruptible heroes out there... Nah, can't be. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yikes Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 i've been to cuba twice and it didn't seem like hell most common people seemed happy except the doctors and lawyers who had traveled outside the country and realized they were making no money and did not get to drive the BMW SUV i did see many people being super industrious and hard working as opposed to jamaica where it seems much more laid back and less productive on all fronts Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68180-ernesto-che-guevera/#findComment-1639643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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