Guest sirch Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) just seen this... Quote It's got a bad reputation as a party drug, but scientists now believe that ecstasy could help to cure some blood cancers. Scientists have known for some time that the drug can kill some cancer cells, but they now believe it to be 100 times more effective than originally thought. A new study has shown that leukaemia, lymphoma and myeloma cells could all be killed in a test tube, although treatment could still be a decade away. Researchers at the University of Birmingham, in collaboration with the University of Western Australia, have chemically re-engineered ecstasy by taking some atoms away and putting new ones in their place. One variant increased cancer-fighting effectiveness 100-fold. This means that if 100g of un-modified ecstasy was needed to get the desired effect, only 1g of the modified ecstasy would be needed. Scientists say that this also reduces the toxic effect on the brain. Lead researcher Professor John Gordon, from the University of Birmingham told the BBC: "Against the cancers, particularly the leukaemia, the lymphoma and the myeloma, where we've tested these new compounds we can wipe out 100 per cent of the cancer cells in some cases. "We would really need to pinpoint which are the most sensitive cases, but it has the potential to wipe out the cancer cells in those examples. "This is in the test tube, it could be different in the patient, but for now it's quite exciting." Experts believe that the drug works because it is attracted to the fat in the membranes of the cancerous cells. Researchers think it makes the cells "a bit more soapy", which can break down the membrane and kill the cell. However, doctors have no plans to prescribe modified ecstasy to patients in the near future as animal and clinical trials will be needed first. How would you feel about being prescribed ecstasy? Edited August 20, 2011 by sirch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) i'd be up for partaking in clinical trials edit: actually no i wouldn't, i suppose i'd have to have cancer Edited August 20, 2011 by tauboo Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Best drug ever. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Now, the real question is, can taking x prevent cancer? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 On 8/20/2011 at 2:48 PM, jefferoo said: Now, the real question is, can taking x prevent cancer? i'm not sure certain Governments would want us to know the answer to that!, if the answer was yes. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 no source cited; article devoid of the fancy medical words that might make me believe this. good work. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 On 8/20/2011 at 4:06 PM, hahathhat said: no source cited; article devoid of the fancy medical words that might make me believe this. good work. lol, you should take a chill pill ! http://lifestyle.aol.co.uk/2011/08/19/could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/?ncid=wsc-uk-lifestyle-image Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Quote Experts believe that the drug works because it is attracted to the fat in the membranes of the cancerous cells. Researchers think it makes the cells "a bit more soapy", which can break down the membrane and kill the cell. soapy molecules. this sounds legit standard pedantic troll-food answer: lots of things are already totally awesome at killing cancer cells. but: 1) delivery mechanism it's not like you swallow a pill and the pill is an intelligent little cancer-finding submarine. maybe you just poop it out, and it misses the cancer entirely. how do you get it to your brain tumor? insufflation? for this reason, lots of things capable of killing cancer cells are not a cure for cancer. 2) side-effects it's some isomer or derivative of MDMA. unless Shulgin wrote up some notes, there's no way to know if it's safe/toxic/psychoactive/etc Edited August 20, 2011 by hahathhat Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 277: 930-933 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Something working in a petridish/testtube does not equal a real life cure. Also could you please post a source for the article, it's absolutely terribly written in terms of providing useful information that enables you to judge the actual merit of these findings. Sorry if I come across as an asshole but I get really tired of all these miracle drug articles and idiot journalists that make no effort to do a good article on medicine/science that's not some sensationalist bullshit about antioxidants or something quirky about how something from daily life turns out to be key in curing every type of cancer known to man. Edited August 20, 2011 by 277: 930-933 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) On 8/20/2011 at 4:23 PM, 277: 930-933 said: Something working in a petridish/testtube does not equal a real life cure. well, yeah, of course. this from the, granted, very short and 'unscientific-sounding', silly article... Quote This is in the test tube, it could be different in the patient, but for now it's quite exciting." ......................................... .......................................................animal and clinical trials will be needed first. Edited August 20, 2011 by sirch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 fucking hell, i need to get on the e's. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1640968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 im probably safe from cancer then, if not from depression and angina Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest underscore Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 me and a q-dance pill kicked the shit out of cancer yesterday. thanks nederlands Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 e + a-levels results foam party = really soapy cancer vaccination for teenagers ( ) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 You're damn right it could. I've done ecstasy maybe a dozen times and still no cancer. PS I might have cancer and not know it because I've really never looked into it. But if I found out i had it I'd probably do some E to test out the theory. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 xxx ? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 On 8/20/2011 at 4:45 PM, BCM said: fucking hell, i need to get on the e's. On 8/20/2011 at 10:38 PM, Zephyr_Nova said: You're damn right it could. I've done ecstasy maybe a dozen times and still no cancer. PS I might have cancer and not know it because I've really never looked into it. But if I found out i had it I'd probably do some E to test out the theory. you'd be better off getting some mdma... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 On 8/20/2011 at 7:51 PM, tauboo said: really soapy cancer vaccination for teenagers ( ) Dibs on this as song title. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) On 8/20/2011 at 10:49 PM, sirch said: you'd be better off getting some mdma... I'm sure there's going to be some of that mixed in somewhere. It just means i need to do way more E to ensure I get more mdma. Problem solved. Edited August 20, 2011 by Zephyr_Nova Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 On 8/20/2011 at 11:06 PM, Zephyr_Nova said: On 8/20/2011 at 10:49 PM, sirch said: you'd be better off getting some mdma... I'm sure there's going to be some of that mixed in somewhere. It just means i need to do way more E to ensure I get more mdma. Problem solved. lol. errr, that's why you should just go straight for the mdma! (?) fuck those dirty ol' pills full of god knows what... and a minute amount of actual 'ecstasy'. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Promo Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 On a side not there's been a lot of research suggesting dope has very strong anti cancer properties amongst other benefits. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 On 8/20/2011 at 11:10 PM, sirch said: On 8/20/2011 at 11:06 PM, Zephyr_Nova said: On 8/20/2011 at 10:49 PM, sirch said: you'd be better off getting some mdma... I'm sure there's going to be some of that mixed in somewhere. It just means i need to do way more E to ensure I get more mdma. Problem solved. lol. errr, that's why you should just go straight for the mdma! (?) Cuz I love them delicious impurities! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 mdma here is more impure than the pills. incidentally ive been off the stuff for 6 weeks now and my dreams have gotten so boring all of a sudden. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 nope Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide MAXIMUS MISCHIEF's signature Hide all signatures official sup barnstar of coolness Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68235-could-ecstasy-cure-cancer/#findComment-1641217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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