Fred McGriff Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 So something happened to me today that resulted in a lot of people that I had no idea were spiritual people saying "you are in my prayers," "your family is in our prayers," "i'm praying for you," etc etc. It got me thinking, let's say you don't believe in god or prayer or faith or ghosts and things of that nature. Let's say that your beliefs are based on the limits of human knowledge and observation. How do you take such a comment? Do you think "ew, back off jesus freak," or are you genuinely flattered that someone cares for you in their own irrational way of dealing with things? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) On 8/30/2011 at 7:23 PM, Fred McGriff said: So something happened to me today that resulted in a lot of people that I had no idea were spiritual people saying "you are in my prayers," "your family is in our prayers," "i'm praying for you," etc etc. It got me thinking, let's say you don't believe in god or prayer or faith or ghosts and things of that nature. Let's say that your beliefs are based on the limits of human knowledge and observation. How do you take such a comment? Do you think "ew, back off jesus freak," or are you genuinely flattered that someone cares for you in their own irrational way of dealing with things? its just their way to say something nice and show that they care. Just be friendly and say thanks for the gesture not for agreeing with them Edited August 30, 2011 by o00o Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred McGriff Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 oh i'm a jesus freak myself so if it happens to me then the conversation usually ends up being an arms race of increasingly frightening spiritual comments about divine will and the day of reckoning Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I generally prefer religious associates to keep that stuff quiet but you can't help but appreciate the sentiment, although it makes me pity them slightly Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I would probably say 'thank you' or 'I appreciate it'. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 My exgirlfriends family is religious and her mom still tells me that I am in her prayers. I feel very strange and awkward when I am told that I am in someones prayers. I think it might be because the people I care about the most and that mean the most to me wouldn't say that kind of thing to me. So, in that vein, it is like a stranger is telling me that I am so close to them that they connect me with one of the most important things in their life that means absolutely nothing to me. There is a huge disconnect. I am happy that they care enough about me to want to say and do this for me but it, in all reality, means nothing to me literally. It's just the idea that they care for me that i can get behind. So i don't get offended if someone i know and care about says this, but if some asshole were to say something like "heavy metal music is the devils work, i will pray for you" then i would tell them to shove their prayers up their ass or reccomend praying to god that i don't massacre their family. tldr is it don't bug me, don't be preachy. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hautlle Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Yeah, I just thank them. It's cool, I don't believe it will do anything, but "it's the thought that counts" and if that's what they want to do with their time it's saul goodman. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hautlle's signature Hide all signatures Albums/EPs Free to DL or stream Newest stuff is on Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 On 8/30/2011 at 7:26 PM, o00o said: On 8/30/2011 at 7:23 PM, Fred McGriff said: So something happened to me today that resulted in a lot of people that I had no idea were spiritual people saying "you are in my prayers," "your family is in our prayers," "i'm praying for you," etc etc. It got me thinking, let's say you don't believe in god or prayer or faith or ghosts and things of that nature. Let's say that your beliefs are based on the limits of human knowledge and observation. How do you take such a comment? Do you think "ew, back off jesus freak," or are you genuinely flattered that someone cares for you in their own irrational way of dealing with things? its just their way to say something nice and show that they care. Just be friendly and say thanks for the gesture not for agreeing with them On 8/30/2011 at 7:34 PM, The Pod said: I would probably say 'thank you' or 'I appreciate it'. ^this On 8/30/2011 at 7:34 PM, essines said: My exgirlfriends family is religious and her mom still tells me that I am in her prayers. I feel very strange and awkward when I am told that I am in someones prayers. I think it might be because the people I care about the most and that mean the most to me wouldn't say that kind of thing to me. Yeah...I've heard that from some close members of my family and you just kind of go with it. There are a lot of very religious people who go to faith because of personal tragedy and strife (death, social and political oppression, etc) and I can't criticize that, I respect it. I think a lot of people aren't religious simply because they don't need to be. Now as soon as people start judging you, and the "I'll pray for you" is condescending (most evangelicals are like that for example) that's when you can start questioning it. If it's a stranger, tell them that's that not their place as devotees. Personally I'm hold vague, post-theist beliefs (I'm beyond being an agnostic I guess) and think that prayer as a literal concept is absolutely ridiculous. Praying should be a goodwill gesture or meditation, not a fucking request. I've always respected Hitchens and thought he broke it down quite well: The way the English-born Hitchens sees it, the people praying for him break down into three basic groups: those who seem genuinely glad he's suffering and dying from cancer; those who want him to become a believer in their religious faith; and those who are asking God to heal him. Hitchens has no use for that first group. "'To hell with you' is the response to the ones who pray for me to go to hell," Hitchens told AP. He's ruling out the idea of a deathbed change of heart: "'Thanks but no thanks' is the reply to those who want me to convert and recognize a divinity or deity." It's that third group -- people who are asking God for Hitchens' healing -- that causes Hitchens to choose his words even more carefully than normal. Are those prayers OK? Are they helpful? "I say it's fine by me, I think of it as a nice gesture. And it may well make them feel better, which is a good thing in itself," says Hitchens. But prayers for his healing don't make him feel better. "Well, not any more than very large numbers of very kind, thoughtful letters from nonbelievers, some of whom know me, some of whom don't, asking me to know that they are on my side," Hitchens said. "That cheers me up, yes." Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root5 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I think the only person who prays for me is my mom. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Root5's signature Hide all signatures WATMM Christmas Albums: 2011 2012 2013 2014MOST IDM Tribute Albums: Incomplete Skyscrapers Rogue Planet Mycorhizae Olympus Mons HeadphonesOther Compilation Albums: Heading for Outer Space Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve33 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I say thank you, and appreciate it, but it's still awkward. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide murve33's signature Hide all signatures My Last.Fm: http://www.last.fm/user/murve33 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 On 8/30/2011 at 7:51 PM, Murveman said: I say thank you, and appreciate it, but it's still awkward. Yeah, pretty much. It doesn't offend me, but it's kind of alienating, even though the thought behind it is nice. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I'm praying for each one of you heathens. Reveal hidden contents Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest underscore Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 like any decent pagan, I sodomize them right then and there Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 i'm glad to hear it. i don't believe in god, but it means they're thinking of you, and that's always nice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I avoid religious people so that never happens to me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 i tend to masturbate in front of them while they pray. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 my partner is christian in a vague sort of way and says she's praying for me occasionally. it started off weirding me out but it's just her way of showing she cares so w/e. also she will make jokes about it, like im moving back in with my mormon parents for a few months and she was like "i just want you to know that i will be praying for you. to the REAL, NONMORMON GOD. tell your folks." but yeah with her it doesnt bother me at all, it's just a roundabout way of saying "good luck" my parents, on the other hand, will say they are praying for me, and it creeps me out. because i know they are praying for weird shit like that i'll become a mormon again and go straight or something. that's ooky. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 reddit's r/atheism is a cesspool of self-righteous little sub-dawkins fucks who give the rest of us heathens a bad name. just throwin that out there. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 On 8/30/2011 at 8:28 PM, disparaissant said: my partner is christian in a vague sort of way and says she's praying for me occasionally. it started off weirding me out but it's just her way of showing she cares so w/e. also she will make jokes about it, like im moving back in with my mormon parents for a few months and she was like "i just want you to know that i will be praying for you. to the REAL, NONMORMON GOD. tell your folks." but yeah with her it doesnt bother me at all, it's just a roundabout way of saying "good luck" my parents, on the other hand, will say they are praying for me, and it creeps me out. because i know they are praying for weird shit like that i'll become a mormon again and go straight or something. that's ooky. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100827011051AA7jmkH Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 i'll pee for u Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Praying is sexy. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 On 8/30/2011 at 8:31 PM, chenGOD said: http://answers.yahoo...27011051AA7jmkH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 On 8/30/2011 at 8:31 PM, chenGOD said: http://answers.yahoo...27011051AA7jmkH wow that first answer is hilarious. most roundabout way of saying "you just need a good dicking" ever. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 On 8/30/2011 at 8:36 PM, kaini said: On 8/30/2011 at 8:31 PM, chenGOD said: http://answers.yahoo...27011051AA7jmkH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA Best answer: Quote Ask Jesus to give you the strength to resist your NATURAL urge for muff diving and dildo strapping. It ain't gonna be easy, but hey, striving for a personal relationship with a long-dead guru is certainly a very rational act. It is the cure for the disease of homosexuality. Any born-again Christian pastor can teach you how to pray to become "normal" for a fee Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
encey Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 It's usually clear when people mean "I'll pray for you" in a spiritually patronizing or condescending way. When they mean it sincerely, I take it to be a powerful expression. Because in these kinds of cases (there are many other reasons for praying, of course), people are praying about something they cannot do anything about, physically or causally speaking. So I see their acts of prayer as a way of facing up to something about life and the world that we just cannot make sense of, that is overwhelming, alienating, terrifying or affectively deadening -- when someone dies or goes into surgery, when a baby is being delivered, when people are caught in the throes or aftermath of a natural disaster. When they pray, they acknowledge the kind of situation you are facing, with all its uncertainties and anxieties, with the utterly decisive stakes of its outcome. And I take it they are offering their constant thoughts of you and wishes for your well-being as a source of psychological strength and stability to draw upon, in circumstances where your own strength may be totally sapped. I am neither Atheist nor theistic, so this is my way of translating the immense personal force of "I'll pray for you" into more neutral -- but not neutralized -- language. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide encey's signature Hide all signatures essines said: i am hot shit ... that smells like baking bread. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68433-secular-folk-how-do-you-react-when-someone-says-theyll-pray-for-you/#findComment-1646594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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