getting refined sugar out of your diet

now i read labels and see how fucking loaded w/sugar supposedly "healthy food " really is.

like your average sports bars-3-4 teaspoons of sugar!

bloodclot!

i've been off the poison for 3 weeks and it ain't easy.

i'm on some fruit and nut snacks.

strawberries and coco nibs,apples etc

oh and BLUEBERRIES are the bomb.

turns out strawberries and blueberries have a ton of antioxidants -strawberries being the highest of all.

it is pretty much out of my diet. didn't make a conscious decision to do that though. don't tend to have sports bars and whatnot cause they're a rip-off.

I don't buy anything with more than one ingredient

when i'm hungry, i go outside and start digging into the soil with my mouth until it's full. swallow and repeat until i am no longer hungry.

  On 9/27/2011 at 2:10 AM, sheatheman said:

when i'm hungry, i go outside and start digging into the soil with my mouth until it's full. swallow and repeat until i am no longer hungry.

What do you do when you live in the concrete jungle?

Oh good, now i have somewhere to post this

Watch this talk, really intresting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

yeah it just destroys your pancreas

and fucks up everything basically

i find it insane that people don't realise there is sugar in their food. i also don't get how people can eat so much of it and find it hard to get off of? seems pretty straight forward.

aren't i already dead then? what's the point? i can filter out about 30-40% of the poison? grow my own shit on a farm somewhere? invent a machine that defluoridizes tap water/my urine?

sucrose bad, fructose good

  On 9/27/2011 at 4:43 AM, troon said:

sucrose bad, fructose good

lol, watch the video.The fructose we get is mainly from High Fructose Corn Syrup and fructose is bad. Sucrose which we get from beets and cane sugar is half fructose, half glucose so less bad. But still not something you want much of.

any sugar that is isolated from it's original source is going to ultimately have negative effects on the body. the natural time released design in digestion of a whole food (with fiber etc) is what keeps us safe, whatever that food may be.

anything can be excessively indulged in, sugar is no different, however, i do not believe in the maxim, 'everything in moderation', some things are best avoided completely

i ate some cheap ice cream tonight and noticed it is made of HFCS. Will I live to see the next morning?

please explain why refined sugar is worse than unrefined sugar.

i'm not disputing that excessive sugar is bad for you,

i'm just looking for an explanation as to why refined sugar is worse,

edit: troon, your vague hand-waving bullshit two posts up is not an explanation

respected peer-reviewed sources, please.

i eat ten grain hot cereal in the morning (with honey, fruits and nuts), for lunch it's usually pasta with whatever vegetables i have in the house and sometimes grilled chicken (veggies from the local organic produce stand), and also cheese and olive oil. for dinner i usually eat pizza or salad from my work. we don't put sugar in any of our ingredients, just local honey (i recently had a vegan tell me honey is bad because it "exploits the bees".... i ended the conversation pretty quick after that). i put honey in my tea, turbinado sugar in my coffee.

in short, honey FTW, try not to eat your food from a box

  On 9/27/2011 at 8:05 AM, kaini said:

please explain why refined sugar is worse than unrefined sugar.

 

i'm not disputing that excessive sugar is bad for you,

i'm just looking for an explanation as to why refined sugar is worse,

 

edit: troon, your vague hand-waving bullshit two posts up is not an explanation

respected peer-reviewed sources, please.

He probably means sugar in food stuffs like fruit, versus sugar as a food additive. He just doesn't realise that this was the distinction that he was going for, until it's now been defined for him.

Btw, i had a sachet of sugar in my decaf at the café before. And then a small bottle of pepsi with the lunch.

I like dextrose.

i tend to avoid it. i try to stick to a diet of whole grains, fruit and veg for the most part - but every once in a while i'll have a pizza with some gross sugary sauce and tons of cheese.

Really interesting vid, i expected to flick through but ended up watching the whole thing, cheers for posting that.

Polyunsaturated fatty acids: never again.

  On 9/27/2011 at 8:24 AM, luke viia said:

i recently had a vegan tell me honey is bad because it "exploits the bees"

hahah

  On 9/27/2011 at 4:36 PM, m u st co n t r ol t h o 4 said:

  On 9/27/2011 at 8:24 AM, luke viia said:

i recently had a vegan tell me honey is bad because it "exploits the bees"

 

hahah

"Exploits the bees" sounds dumb, sure, but I don't think it's totally ridiculous to reject the idea of holding dominion over any sentient animal for the purposes of feeding humans. You can "exploit" a bee just like you can "exploit", say, tar sands or rainforests.

Not a vegan, btw.

Yeah, but vegans are "exploiting" plants and grasslands, so that logic can be thrown out the window right now. Life eats life and there's no way of getting around it. I'm not pulling out the bee's wings and putting pins in their faces after I eat their sweet, sweet nectar, and neither are the people raising them.

And for the record, I find the idea of keeping pets such as cats and dogs to be a much worse offense of holding dominion over other sentient creatures (for the purpose of entertaining humans, mind you) than raising bees. Bees don't end up in the pound, nor are they trained to fight or attack each other (to my knowledge). I will post "30 hornets vs 30,000 bees" if we really need to drive home the point of natural violence in the world, but if the [vegan] argument is that humans should be above 'holding dominion' over other animals, there are better places to start remedying the problem than beekeeping. That's why I stopped this conversation when it first approached me.

*slowly backs off while wolfing out*

"there are better places to start remedying the problem than beekeeping"

Well, if they're vegan then they've already started, haven't they?

Anyway, I don't want to get caught up in the semantics of "exploitation" and whether exploiting bees is any worse than exploiting plants or whatever else - just pointing out that there are less ridiculous definitions of the word than this idea of millions of bees toiling away under the whip of some sinister overseer.

well the bees are all depressed and not making babies, maybe as a protest against us eating their produce and not paying them for it. we do grow flowers for them though, they must enjoy that easy availability of flowers.