hardcode Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Help please Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hardcode's signature Hide all signatures www.soundcloud.com/hardcode Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 You're gonna preserve the pitch by timestretching, preserve the length by pitchshifting, or alter both by changing the sample playback rate. I don't think there's an option that does neither or what that would even consist of - Erm, dimension shifting maybe? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 On 10/27/2011 at 4:10 PM, Jonas said: changing the density value of the sample grains using granular synthesis is an option, maybe. Ah, good call - forgot about sample density. Though I think Mr. Man wanted to specifically change speed, how that would be achieved without affecting either the time or pitch domain I have no idea Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) actually i think i just used timestretch before. for some reason i thought there was an alternative to timestretching. what jonas mentioned applies to samples or just synths i thought granualr synthesis was only used for making synth sounds. Edited October 27, 2011 by hardcode Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hardcode's signature Hide all signatures www.soundcloud.com/hardcode Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 well i just did some reading and apparently timestrech is performed by using granular synthesis Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hardcode's signature Hide all signatures www.soundcloud.com/hardcode Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Granular synthesis breaks the sound into minute particles of time (or granules) so can apply to any kind of audio. It's how Paulstretch does its 'thing' Have you an example of what it is exactly you want to achieve as the initial question seems a little unclear .... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 i just want to change the speed of a sample i have to match the bpm of the track without having to up the pitch so much it sounds like a chipmunk i realize now that i did this before with timestretch but sometimes timestrech can introduce all kinds of weird audio artifacts into the sample so i guess im looking for maybe a vst with an optimized timestrech that minimizes this. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hardcode's signature Hide all signatures www.soundcloud.com/hardcode Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Gotcha, yeah you wanna be timestreching then ! EDIT: Using a better algorithm. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 timestretching is always going to sound a bit sketchy, especially with percussive shit, but there's a whole bunch of different types in Reaper.. or there's this command line program I was using for a while in Renoise that's ok: http://breakfastquay.com/rubberband/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide foresense's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 thanks, ill check it out Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hardcode's signature Hide all signatures www.soundcloud.com/hardcode Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Depending on the sample you might be able to manually chop it up & resequence it at a lower tempo. Most drum stuff is pretty straightforward - just break it up into the individual hits. A melody could be broken into individual notes/chords, but if it's a pad or violins or such it'll probably sound wonk. Dialogue & field recordings would pretty much be a no-go. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 yeah this is a vocal sample :( Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hardcode's signature Hide all signatures www.soundcloud.com/hardcode Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlucharski Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 ableton does this shit really well, the only thing it does well for a former nazi software. check ryan's drum tuts on this. also you may change the speed of your brain: 40mg of temazepam might do the trick. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide schlucharski's signature Hide all signatures this is not a statement Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1681366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadarJammer Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) There is a new version of Akaizer recently. Edited November 9, 2011 by RadarJammer Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1689264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) looks nice and all, but it's the exact opposite of what the op wants. Edited November 9, 2011 by Gocab Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/69580-how-to-change-speed-of-a-sample-without-pitch-bending-or-timestretching/#findComment-1689293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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