looking for software vocoder

is there such a vst vocoder (effect) that you can place on an audio channel (carrier) and the modulator isn't another audio channel but built in effects iinstead?

Antares Autotune.

i had that once and found it pretty complicated

then your only other option is hardware.

A good vocoder is hard to find.

Exactly what effects were you looking for? The term effect is usually used to describe the modulation of an audio signal and would not generate any sound of it's own. Are you looking for a synthesizer as the modulator, or perhaps something that can play back samples?

In the off chance that you're using Live 8, it's vocoder is probably the easiest to implement, most bullshit-free, all-the-features-I-need-none-I-don't vocoder I know of. It just so happens that it also has a built-in white noise generator that you can use instead of a carrier channel, which may be along the lines of what you're looking for.

mda vocoder - http://mda.smartelectronix.com/effects.htm

(though I feel I may be missing exactly what it is you want - the wording seems a little cryptic)

Vokator, by Native Instruments, is a really great-sounding vocoder that had a kitchen-sink list of features such as a built in synth, sample playback, and dynamics processing. Unfortunately it was a huge pain in the ass to implement, had terrible ergonomics and is no longer sold or supported by NI.

Sounds great, though.

As a side note; Do Canadians use the phrase "everything but the kitchen sink"? Or in the UK, while I'm at it?

  On 11/16/2011 at 7:54 PM, Wall Bird said:

 

As a side note; Do Canadians use the phrase "everything but the kitchen sink"? Or in the UK, while I'm at it?

My understanding is that, seeing as the UK only recently developed modern plumbing (around 1960 or so), they haven't had the time for the phrase to crop up.

  On 11/16/2011 at 6:45 PM, yek said:

is there such a vst vocoder (effect) that you can place on an audio channel (carrier) and the modulator isn't another audio channel but built in effects iinstead?

Ableton's vocoder meets these needs and has a few options for the modulator source including noise. Not sure what you mean by "built in effects" however.

I really like Akai's D.C. Vocoder, but it's not the cleanest sounding, so if you're trying to sound really well produced, it might not be your thing. I also like the sound of Vocodex, but it is an absolute bitch to figure out how to control it via midi.

Not sure what you mean by built in effects but fwiw Native Instruments Razor for Reaktor has a nice vocoder.

Wish I had ableton 8.

I dont even think live 7 files are transferable to 8, which is like the most retarded thing ever.

  On 11/16/2011 at 8:01 PM, acid1 said:

  On 11/16/2011 at 6:45 PM, yek said:

is there such a vst vocoder (effect) that you can place on an audio channel (carrier) and the modulator isn't another audio channel but built in effects iinstead?

 

Ableton's vocoder meets these needs and has a few options for the modulator source including noise. Not sure what you mean by "built in effects" however.

built in efx. i guess i mean different ways to modulate the carrier without using an audio file

I'm really confused now - you can't modulate the carrier without using an audio source as your modulator. So do you mean something that uses its own supplied modulation signal ? Sounds kinda restrictive ...

also audacity has one built in

oi there!

I really do like the already mentioned Akai D.C. It's a juicy little beast and simple to use.

TAL has a nice one with carrier VCO

http://kunz.corrupt....cts/TAL-Vocoder

and various free ones at

http://www.gersic.co...Submit&action=1

boing boom tschak,

io

  On 11/17/2011 at 1:14 AM, chassis said:

I dont even think live 7 files are transferable to 8, which is like the most retarded thing ever.

They definitely are transferable, but you can't move v8 files to v7 which is understandable.

i think the TAL is what i'm looking for