How good are the native synths in Ableton Live Suite?

I seem to be at a dilemma.

Right now, I have full access to the lite version of Live, and I feel like this will be adequate for my recording purposes. I know that down the line I want to upgrade to the full version when i have the extra $$$. But for now my plan was to get FL Studio 10 and rewire it with Ableton to be able to reap the benefits that both programs have to offer.

My question now is... How "self-contained" is the full version of Ableton Live Suite? Are all the synths adequate for many different types of music? If this seems the case, I may say fuck it and just go exclusively with Ableton, although I feel that doing so would take away some of the flexibility.

I have already tried out the layouts of both FL10 and AL8 and I like both DAWs, so it really is a matter of which path would lead to a stronger sound bank/greater workflow.

operator is awesome.

I think Live has all you could ever need but I think sometimes a bit of musical frustration can be solved by jumping over to another environment to freshen your vantage point up a bit so I vote for FL+AL combo though I personally use neither.

Most of them suck to be honest.

Operator and Sampler are as IDM as it gets.

As has been stated, Operator and Sampler are the shit, all the FX are great. The other ones are kinda pointless.

Tension and Collision are unparalleled synths, never-mind, nothing to see here! everything else in it is just basic bread and butter stuff that isn't that impressive.

So what are my best options for virtual synths at this point?

Well... what kind of music are you planning on making?

A large range of things... But most likely I will end up doing IDM, ambient, DnB, maybe some techno, and different experimental combinations. I'm also gonna layer in some synths with my guitar playing for a different kind of music (idk what youd call it)

  On 12/20/2011 at 10:07 PM, sergeantk said:

IDM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

...anyway. Download some of the free ones out in the internet sphere. There are some wonderful ones available.

those nazies are even too cheap to pay license for mp3 encoding, jesus I gave this product a chance, didn't do it for me, sorry for venting my frustration.

  On 12/20/2011 at 10:11 PM, Squee said:

  On 12/20/2011 at 10:07 PM, sergeantk said:

IDM

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

 

...anyway. Download some of the free ones out in the internet sphere. There are some wonderful ones available.

For lack of a better word. I don't know how to classify that music.

And thats a great idea. Would you know any particularly good free ones or am I better of searching/experimenting on my own?

Knock yourself out

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check out mosca's thread, it's pinned in this subforum