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ron Paul has now been on the Drudge homepage once a week for the past month

He is now in the #2 polling position for Iowa

As he gets closer to this position the right wing establishment goes on full attack.

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I thought this was gonna be, like, a thread to share audio clips from Ron Paul speeches so we could all make awful politiwobstep remixes.

Sorry, seriously though, I used to love the guy, but my enthusiasm has died down a bit.

 

Positive: Foreign policy actually maintains some semblance of sanity.

 

Negative: Hands-off free market philosophy would be incredibly dangerous in current economic and corporate climate. Progressive regulatory actions need to be taken to break up the monoliths...then try to implement a free market experiment.

it doesn't matter.

 

 

If Paul is principled and takes the states' rights position, a state that legalizes abortion does what it does and he shan't do a fucking thing about it regardless of personal value systems.

he's coherent. If i were american id vote for him. It's seems to be the first candidate i apporve. He's solid.

 

  On 12/23/2011 at 10:24 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

it doesn't matter.

 

 

If Paul is principled and takes the states' rights position, a state that legalizes abortion does what it does and he shan't do a fucking thing about it regardless of personal value systems.

 

He believes that abortion is wrong morally and personally, but, he also realizes the government cannot interfere federally. Only through states rights and personal liberty.

  On 2/19/2012 at 4:04 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

again, i don't really hate skrillex as much as i hate the people that think that sort of music has any sort of integrity. i try to be open minded, and a lot of the time i employ a "well, each to his/her own" attitude towards personal preferences such as music taste and who knows, maybe it is original in its own way, sorta like a drawing by an autistic kid.

my guess is all this abortion talk is a ruse to gain moral credibility from the religious right.

 

 

if the guy seriously wants to federally mandate abortion laws, hes automatically out of my book as a viable candidate.

  On 12/23/2011 at 10:29 PM, Kanakori said:

he's coherent. If i were american id vote for him. It's seems to be the first candidate i apporve. He's solid.

 

  On 12/23/2011 at 10:24 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

it doesn't matter.

 

 

If Paul is principled and takes the states' rights position, a state that legalizes abortion does what it does and he shan't do a fucking thing about it regardless of personal value systems.

 

He believes that abortion is wrong morally and personally, but, he also realizes the government cannot interfere federally. Only through states rights and personal liberty.

 

exactly....the question is whether he will actually back that up.....also consider him placing Supreme Court nominees to overturn Roe v. Wade.

  On 12/23/2011 at 10:29 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

 

if the guy seriously wants to federally mandate abortion laws, hes automatically out of my book as a viable candidate.

you mean within the republican paradigm?

 

ron paul smacks a bitch down

 

  On 12/23/2011 at 10:30 PM, Awepittance said:
  On 12/23/2011 at 10:29 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

if the guy seriously wants to federally mandate abortion laws, hes automatically out of my book as a viable candidate.

you mean within the republican paradigm?

 

i mean that if your whole platform is obeying the Constitution regardless of personal opinion, you better sure as shit not even hint at dealing with abortion on a federal level. Hands off means hands off. ...that's why I think these commercials are to make him more credible to the religious right.

i made a third ron paul thread because we needed it and it got deleted very quickly for some reason

 

 

it doesn't even turn up in the nonsense/crap forum

 

 

fml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibe3Sd9wY58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFiwlHLfUs

 

i dont really like these 2 shows much, but they hit the nail on the head on the Fox News attempt to make Ron Paul disappear. First they ignored him now since he is actually 1st place in Iowa polls, the attacks are now full force.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8EwKLAuSyw

 

Cenk makes some good points, some good bill clips in here

 

i know using the term 'shadow government' will discredit me in some people's eyes, but i think this video and ron paul downplaying is a great example of them coming out of the shadows a little too obviously. The last time i felt this way about the invisble hand becoming visible was when every credit card company , big bank, amazon and paypal all collectively tried to stop Wikleaks from receiving donations

 

usually this behind the scenes element has excluded people from the race by simply phasing them out of the debates, this time around they didnt do it. Kucinich and Gravel were quietly phased out of the 2008 presidential debates, i guess it's too late now for them to do the same to Paul

 

(im not a mod so this was a half assed thread cleanup/split attempt)

Edited by Awepittance

u keep making politics threads and i know its about ron paul cuz hes cool and all but come on does any1 REALLY wanna talk about that stuff other than u and chaos machine!?!? u should just pm him if u guys really wanna talk about it that bad

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Americans only think Ron Paul is Jesus because everyone else seems so close to satanic personalities. Pretty simple really.

there is a lot of really weird fan art for Ron Paul out there, probably more than any other politician, please post more!

as I said in the other thread . . would vote for just to support someone intelligent & steady in his beliefs in office. However I am idealistically in favor of a strong benevolent federal government in some areas (economic/environmental regulation, worker's rights, for example) and am afraid his anti-federal philosophy would split the US into smaller corrupt harder-to-control bodies.

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