KyonPalm Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Apologies if this is jazz, but I've always wondered, what year was each track from SAW 85-92 made in? 1985 to 1992 is a big difference in the music scene, as I'm sure you know, so to know what year he made each song would help me understand them better. I've got some vague ideas which I will post at the bottom. Also, if someone like Joyrex could tell some more interesting tidbits about the album like the whole "Tha" being the second part of his girlfriend's name thing, it'd be much appreciated. I never knew that. Anyway, my ideas... Xtal: 1985 Tha: 1989 Pulsewidth: 1988 Ageispolis: 1988 i: 1990 Green Calx: 1988 Heliosphan: 1987 We Are The Music Makers: 1986 Schottkey 7th Path: 1989 Ptolemy: 1988 Hedphelym: 1990 Delphium: 1989 Actium: 1990 As you can see, I'm not too sure what could stretch it to '92... possibly "i" if I had to guess. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KyonPalm's signature Hide all signatures Apex Twins? I like that band! youtube / twitter / bandcamp Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1747510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I think most of the songs on the album are re-works of early demos. Probably recorded the album between 90-92 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1747511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyonPalm Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 On 2/4/2012 at 5:53 AM, joshuatxuk said: Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... Ah, really? Wasn't aware of that... I suppose I'm as off as I can be there, then, haha. And YO303, I think he probably used as much original material as possible... possibly none of it was re-recorded. I say that given the awful quality instantly recognizable as cassette tape hiss and distortion. I imagine he used better quality reels and stuff for his later works say, by the late '80s, but the quality on some of the tracks isn't quite right for that... I could be wrong, though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KyonPalm's signature Hide all signatures Apex Twins? I like that band! youtube / twitter / bandcamp Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1747521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 IIRC Richie has said that 'i' is the oldest track on there, but I'm not sure of the order of any of the others. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Key's signature Hide all signatures . Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1747617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ando Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I like how nothing on your list goes past 1990 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I don't think he was making those tracks when he was 14 years old. I think that is bullshit. I think he was making music at that age, but probably not anything he has ever released. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 still, for 1985, 86, 87, these are amazing tunes! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) On 2/5/2012 at 6:44 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said: I don't think he was making those tracks when he was 14 years old. I think that is bullshit. I think he was making music at that age, but probably not anything he has ever released. From this page: http://rdj.moto-coda...aq/afxfaq26.txt " "Where was _Surfing On Sine Waves_ recorded?" The Polygon Window LP was written entirely in the deep south west of Cornwall between 1986 and 1989 apart from "Quoth" and "If It Really Is Me," which were updated due to a spillage of orange juice on the master tapes. The tracks were created in the Llanerlog studios. The studios are set close to the coast where the cover photos were taken. " Personally I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. Also, Mike Paradinas stated somewhere, if my memory serves me correctly, that RDJ started making music (or at least started trying to make music) when he was 12 (or 11). Edited February 5, 2012 by Freak of the week Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 From wikipedia: "According to musician Benjamin Middleton, James started producing music at the age of 12." Think whatever you want. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 well we could all say that. i used to make my own silly radio shows with my brother when i was 8 or 9... and record and loop stuff off the radio, and sing along to The Troggs... so what. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I thought it was pretty widely understood that he made those dates up just to seem cool. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) On 2/5/2012 at 7:08 PM, sirch said: well we could all say that. i used to make my own silly radio shows with my brother when i was 8 or 9... and record and loop stuff off the radio, and sing along to The Troggs... so what. So nothing. I am personally not bothered with how old was RDJ when he made SAW85-92 or SOSW, as long as music is that good. I just wrote what other (famous) people said, not that it is any guarantee of the truth. Also, in the interview I attached to this post, RDJ said that (in 1993.) some stuff from Ambient Works was around four to five years old. Maybe he made that up. Fine. Doesn't matter really. We'll never probably have any actual evidence of him producing the music at those times, anyway. We might speculate about this for ages. That doesn't change the fact that the music is great. That's eventually only thing that's important. Edited February 5, 2012 by Freak of the week Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Good scan, thanks! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) On 2/5/2012 at 7:35 PM, psn said: Good scan, thanks! I downloaded the images from WATMM (I believe) years ago. Edited February 5, 2012 by Freak of the week Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 hey, let's close watmm. i mean the music is good, why talk about it? srly gies. anyway, great article! thanks. makes me miss my dx7. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 THIS THREAD hey but here is something sweet i found OMG IZ DA SAME ROBOBt!! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 On 2/5/2012 at 7:35 PM, psn said: Good scan, thanks! agreed. thanks for the scan man. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 On 2/4/2012 at 5:53 AM, joshuatxuk said: Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... The same track that Orbital sampled in Halcyon + On + On? I love the lush timbre Kirsty Hawkshaw sings that in... Am I the only one obsessive enough to pay a session singer to sing original vocals for her instead of sampling other people's songs, then? (Not to mention The Future Sound of London sampling Mary Hopkin's vocal from Rachel's Song...) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 On 2/5/2012 at 9:34 PM, ZoeB said: On 2/4/2012 at 5:53 AM, joshuatxuk said: Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... The same track that Orbital sampled in Halcyon + On + On? I love the lush timbre Kirsty Hawkshaw sings that in... Am I the only one obsessive enough to pay a session singer to sing original vocals for her instead of sampling other people's songs, then? (Not to mention The Future Sound of London sampling Mary Hopkin's vocal from Rachel's Song...) most musicians would rather save the money and buy drugs or faders. i mean, both are as important. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 On 2/5/2012 at 10:34 PM, kinski said: most musicians would rather save the money and buy drugs or faders. i mean, both are as important. It just seems like a false economy, you either have to pay royalties or risk getting sued. That and you don't have any artistic control over how the sample sounds if you didn't commission it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 i don't really follow your last sentence. but let's not turn this into another boring discussion about making our own music. i mean, nobody cares. unless you're richard, then fire away. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Stupid thread Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joseph's signature Hide all signatures Autechre Rule - Queen are Shite Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 On 2/6/2012 at 1:55 AM, Joseph said: Stupid thread we need more dates Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Richard's mother knew he was going to be a musician, so she built a mini-studio inside her uterus. Songs recorded during that era will be relased later this year as "Selected Uterus Works: December 1970 - August 1971" Edited February 6, 2012 by YO303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71607-dates-for-saw-85-92/#findComment-1748807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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