BoC - the music making process?

Okay, serious topic now. I'm fascinated with the whole music making process & how different people approach this, in particular BoC. I struggle with getting things down. Ideas in my head tend to get stuck there because I'm not very 'musical'. In other words I don't know what is happening with my ideas musically, which makes it difficult to write them (or more speficially get them into my DAW/sequencer). It's very frustrating & I've always strugled with this.

How do you think BoC approach this? Are they musically trained do you think? How do they start with a track? They are big on melody so does this come first? Most people start with the beat but I seem to be lead by melody/chords or whatever musical idea I have in my head. Beats seem to be secondary with my musical ideas. I've tried learning the whole scales/chords theory thing. Can't seem to get my head around this so far as making in have any reference to those troublesome ideas in my brain box!!!

So how do BoC do it? How do you guys do it?

most people i know or have read interviews with start with a melody first and then build the rest around that. beats come last or are just made up along the way, and you can always change a beat to something different anyway, and it won't change the overall tune.

but when you start changing tunes/melodies (too much) along the way then you're writing new tunes/tracks within your original.

so, best to start with a melody first i reckon. :) ..unless you have a wicked phat beat in mind for a mainly beat-driven track...........

If you want a place to talk about this stuff, the EKT forums are a great place.

http://forum.watmm.com/forum/5-ekt-general-discussion/

start with a distant memory...

People compose tracks differently. So just do what works best for you. Be it coming up with a sweet rhythm, bass line or some vocals or a vocal sample. The starting point for a track can be anything, as long as it's inspiring you.

The more important part is being able to get your idea onto an instrument or some way to preserve it before you forget about it.

  On 2/7/2012 at 10:46 AM, Rhombix said:

If you want a place to talk about this stuff, the EKT forums are a great place.

yeah except the guy was talking/asking about BoC..

  On 2/7/2012 at 1:48 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

yeah EKT is where it's at

 

there's nothing wrong with starting with a beat either. i have a feeling this is how ae approach their music more often than starting with melodic ideas first.

 

i guess it depends what sort of music you're making. autechre's music is more rhythmically complex than most.

yeah except the guy was talking/asking about BoC..

  On 2/6/2012 at 2:14 PM, Dogboy73 said:

Okay, serious topic now. I'm fascinated with the whole music making process & how different people approach this, in particular BoC........

 

How do you think BoC approach this? Are they musically trained do you think? How do they start with a track? They are big on melody so does this come first? Most people start with the beat but I seem to be lead by melody/chords or whatever musical idea I have in my head. ............

 

So how do BoC do it? How do you guys do it?

  On 2/6/2012 at 2:14 PM, Dogboy73 said:

How do you think BoC approach this? Are they musically trained do you think? How do they start with a track? They are big on melody so does this come first?

i suppose nobody (here) really knows.

they could be musically trained to some extent, but i doubt too far.

and i'd say they most probably start with some sort of melody or drones.

because their beats aren't often too complex. they sound quite similar a lot of the time.

so it (to me) just seems as if they add them nearer the end.

but in their more complex and beaty-driven tracks, like on MHTRTC, who knows. probably beats and samples first, there.*

*see what couch said.

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yeah except the guy was talking/asking about BoC..

Yes. I'm interested in this stuff generally. But I'm most fascinated with how BoC might approach this as it's probably their music that has wowed me more than anything else I've heard. I always tend to start with, or at least what inspires me the most, is a nice melody, pad sound or a chord/note sequence that just strikes a (excuse the pun) chord with me. I'm fascinated as to why this is. Why is it that a particular sequence really stokes me?! Why does BoC's stuff sound so 'right' to me? And why does it light a fire up my arse that makes me want to make music like nothing else on Earth?!?! I'm going through one of my 'BoC life crisis'' at the moment. I get them every now & then

I think we all know the answer to this. In order to make brilliant BoC-like music, you just have to compose really slooooooowly...

I've begin to think of BoC as "conceptual" composers, starting with an idea like "wouldn't it be cool if music did this", and then t recording/mastering/remastering until the concept is almost lost in a washed out haze of texture, but still retains the catharsis of the melody.

  On 2/8/2012 at 5:00 AM, lumpenprol said:

I think we all know the answer to this. In order to make brilliant BoC-like music, you just have to compose really slooooooowly...

lol. No problems there. I've been tinkering for quite some years now. Still have never really finished anything where I've thought, 'yep, that's it. That's me & I'm completely happy with that'. At this rate I think BoC might even have a new album out before me!!!

You need 1tsp of Sesame Street, three Coca-Cola soaked synths, a dash of nostalgia powder, and some Skittles. Mix in blender for three hours until it becomes a glowy, foamy liquid of sherbert-like consistency. Siphon into a 5 gallon glass carboy and ferment for 7+ years.

Bottle and wait for carbonation or until MDG emerges from a hole and sees his shadow. This is the official way to make a BoC.

  On 2/9/2012 at 11:54 AM, Candiru said:

You need 1tsp of Sesame Street, three Coca-Cola soaked synths, a dash of nostalgia powder, and some Skittles. Mix in blender for three hours until it becomes a glowy, foamy liquid of sherbert-like consistency. Siphon into a 5 gallon glass carboy and ferment for 7+ years.

 

Bottle and wait for carbonation or until MDG emerges from a hole and sees his shadow. This is the official way to make a BoC.

Lol. this!