Guest Dogboy73 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Okay, serious topic now. I'm fascinated with the whole music making process & how different people approach this, in particular BoC. I struggle with getting things down. Ideas in my head tend to get stuck there because I'm not very 'musical'. In other words I don't know what is happening with my ideas musically, which makes it difficult to write them (or more speficially get them into my DAW/sequencer). It's very frustrating & I've always strugled with this. How do you think BoC approach this? Are they musically trained do you think? How do they start with a track? They are big on melody so does this come first? Most people start with the beat but I seem to be lead by melody/chords or whatever musical idea I have in my head. Beats seem to be secondary with my musical ideas. I've tried learning the whole scales/chords theory thing. Can't seem to get my head around this so far as making in have any reference to those troublesome ideas in my brain box!!! So how do BoC do it? How do you guys do it? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 most people i know or have read interviews with start with a melody first and then build the rest around that. beats come last or are just made up along the way, and you can always change a beat to something different anyway, and it won't change the overall tune. but when you start changing tunes/melodies (too much) along the way then you're writing new tunes/tracks within your original. so, best to start with a melody first i reckon. :) ..unless you have a wicked phat beat in mind for a mainly beat-driven track........... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1749007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 If you want a place to talk about this stuff, the EKT forums are a great place. http://forum.watmm.com/forum/5-ekt-general-discussion/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dragon's signature Hide all signatures faith <3 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1749696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 start with a distant memory... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1749757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest couch Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) People compose tracks differently. So just do what works best for you. Be it coming up with a sweet rhythm, bass line or some vocals or a vocal sample. The starting point for a track can be anything, as long as it's inspiring you. The more important part is being able to get your idea onto an instrument or some way to preserve it before you forget about it. Edited February 7, 2012 by couch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1749766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) On 2/7/2012 at 10:46 AM, Rhombix said: If you want a place to talk about this stuff, the EKT forums are a great place. yeah except the guy was talking/asking about BoC.. On 2/7/2012 at 1:48 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said: yeah EKT is where it's at there's nothing wrong with starting with a beat either. i have a feeling this is how ae approach their music more often than starting with melodic ideas first. i guess it depends what sort of music you're making. autechre's music is more rhythmically complex than most. yeah except the guy was talking/asking about BoC.. On 2/6/2012 at 2:14 PM, Dogboy73 said: Okay, serious topic now. I'm fascinated with the whole music making process & how different people approach this, in particular BoC........ How do you think BoC approach this? Are they musically trained do you think? How do they start with a track? They are big on melody so does this come first? Most people start with the beat but I seem to be lead by melody/chords or whatever musical idea I have in my head. ............ So how do BoC do it? How do you guys do it? Edited February 7, 2012 by sirch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1749866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) On 2/6/2012 at 2:14 PM, Dogboy73 said: How do you think BoC approach this? Are they musically trained do you think? How do they start with a track? They are big on melody so does this come first? i suppose nobody (here) really knows. they could be musically trained to some extent, but i doubt too far. and i'd say they most probably start with some sort of melody or drones. because their beats aren't often too complex. they sound quite similar a lot of the time. so it (to me) just seems as if they add them nearer the end. but in their more complex and beaty-driven tracks, like on MHTRTC, who knows. probably beats and samples first, there.* *see what couch said. Edited February 7, 2012 by sirch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1749872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dogboy73 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Quote yeah except the guy was talking/asking about BoC.. Yes. I'm interested in this stuff generally. But I'm most fascinated with how BoC might approach this as it's probably their music that has wowed me more than anything else I've heard. I always tend to start with, or at least what inspires me the most, is a nice melody, pad sound or a chord/note sequence that just strikes a (excuse the pun) chord with me. I'm fascinated as to why this is. Why is it that a particular sequence really stokes me?! Why does BoC's stuff sound so 'right' to me? And why does it light a fire up my arse that makes me want to make music like nothing else on Earth?!?! I'm going through one of my 'BoC life crisis'' at the moment. I get them every now & then Edited February 7, 2012 by Dogboy73 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1750030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I think we all know the answer to this. In order to make brilliant BoC-like music, you just have to compose really slooooooowly... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1750369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I've begin to think of BoC as "conceptual" composers, starting with an idea like "wouldn't it be cool if music did this", and then t recording/mastering/remastering until the concept is almost lost in a washed out haze of texture, but still retains the catharsis of the melody. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1750397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dogboy73 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 On 2/8/2012 at 5:00 AM, lumpenprol said: I think we all know the answer to this. In order to make brilliant BoC-like music, you just have to compose really slooooooowly... lol. No problems there. I've been tinkering for quite some years now. Still have never really finished anything where I've thought, 'yep, that's it. That's me & I'm completely happy with that'. At this rate I think BoC might even have a new album out before me!!! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1751198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 You need 1tsp of Sesame Street, three Coca-Cola soaked synths, a dash of nostalgia powder, and some Skittles. Mix in blender for three hours until it becomes a glowy, foamy liquid of sherbert-like consistency. Siphon into a 5 gallon glass carboy and ferment for 7+ years. Bottle and wait for carbonation or until MDG emerges from a hole and sees his shadow. This is the official way to make a BoC. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1751270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 On 2/9/2012 at 11:54 AM, Candiru said: You need 1tsp of Sesame Street, three Coca-Cola soaked synths, a dash of nostalgia powder, and some Skittles. Mix in blender for three hours until it becomes a glowy, foamy liquid of sherbert-like consistency. Siphon into a 5 gallon glass carboy and ferment for 7+ years. Bottle and wait for carbonation or until MDG emerges from a hole and sees his shadow. This is the official way to make a BoC. Lol. this! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71639-boc-the-music-making-process/#findComment-1751477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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