Soundquest Midi Quest 10 XL - holy shit of awesome!!

I dunno why this has passed me over for so long but this Universal Editor for just about every bit of hardware under the sun makes using hardware infinitely easier it seems. I got my Korg 05r/w and Roland JV1080. The Korg is a lot easier to use but the JV is a nightmare although the patches are a million times better!!

Gonna dowload this tonight and try it out and then report back!!

http://www.squest.com/Windows/MidiQuestXL/MidiQuest-About.html

isn't this prohibitively expensive? used to want it for my old CZ1000 but didn't want to lay out £200 or whatever it is and couldn't find a cracked version lol

edit: yeah it's $399! fuck that shit. good luck finding a crack though, but don't think they exist...

  On 2/9/2012 at 2:31 PM, BCM said:

isn't this prohibitively expensive? used to want it for my old CZ1000 but didn't want to lay out £200 or whatever it is and couldn't find a cracked version lol

 

edit: yeah it's $399! fuck that shit. good luck finding a crack though, but don't think they exist...

I guess I can understand why it so expensive as there are literally like 200 midi editors included in it. I think it'd be better though to be able to download it and select the editors you want and pay slightly less. That said I'm gonna hopefully download it tonight so let ya know how that goes nudge nudge wink wink.

yeah you can script your own editors as well, I've tried a cracked version but it's a difficult program to use.. all of those types of programs have their quirks tbh. wanted to script my own evolver editor in there but I gave up pretty quickly when I couldn't even sync stuff up. probably worth the effort.

It's pretty buggy. I had nothing but problems with it and I know from other forums a lot of other people had the same experience. If you can get it to work then it will be amazing, but I think few have had success with it.

  On 2/9/2012 at 7:09 PM, DerWaschbar said:

It's pretty buggy. I had nothing but problems with it and I know from other forums a lot of other people had the same experience. If you can get it to work then it will be amazing, but I think few have had success with it.

Oh well i'll give it a shot and report bank with either platitudes or a rant lol.

Yeah I just installed and it couldn't even recognise my hardware romplers. Pile of shit basically. Such a crying shame as a program like this would just bring all those old bits of hardware right into the 21st century. Needs to be opensource and then let people create their own editors for it and you can download em. This seems to be interesting http://ctrlr.org/viewforum.php?f=48 but I don't honestly think I have the time for it!

DJ PROMO

ctrlr should be the shit, but it's quirky as well.. had it sort of working once, then the main coder changed the complete codebase and it took months before it started working again. partially..

there's also Emagic Sound Diver, but that's old and I didn't have any luck with it. Maybe there are versions for mac somewhere hidden in Logic? I have no idea.. but it looks a lot like Logic.

Best thing you could do imo is just rely on sysex dumps to make a library and/or get a sysex controler like the BCR2000 or Peavy. I wrote a SysEx program for my sampler and am controlling all the knobs with my BCF2k which is very handy, if a little messy with the 2 cords for power and midi in/out... easy to chop up breaks n stuff though this way, wouldn't want to do that from the front panel.

This software is a giant stinking pile of shit. Quirks nothing. This thing doesn't even work. What makes it so irritating is that if it did actually work it would be amazing. It even is supposed to have a vst plugin that can load patches and send messages from inside your track.

But it doesn't work.

If I had a half year and some money I would put together a team of devs and make something like this that would actually work, and then sell it for like $50 just to fuck with those midiquest assholes.

  On 2/10/2012 at 12:29 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

If I had a half year and some money I would put together a team of devs and make something like this that would actually work, and then sell it for like $50 just to fuck with those midiquest assholes.

My thoughts too. I think this would have been relevant had they cracked it say 5-6 years ago but now hardware is becoming obselete you gotta wonder if there's any point. I do agree it would be so awesome to be able to program my JV1080 via VST Plugin. I think the logical thing to do is to sell the package based on how many editors you need e.g $50 for 5 or $75 for 10 etc.

Found a decent little list of patch editors. Seems to be a few for the JV1080 so will give em a shot tmz. http://www.sonicspot.com/patcheditors.html

  On 2/9/2012 at 7:09 PM, DerWaschbar said:

It's pretty buggy. I had nothing but problems with it and I know from other forums a lot of other people had the same experience. If you can get it to work then it will be amazing, but I think few have had success with it.

same, trying to use it with my Yamaha Vl1, Kawai K5000 an Yamaha FS1R has been a greek hell to put it mildly. Certain features work but most of the important ones don't, very frustrating program indeed. If they worked with my hardware i would lock myself in my studio for a month

  On 2/10/2012 at 12:29 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

This software is a giant stinking pile of shit. Quirks nothing. This thing doesn't even work. What makes it so irritating is that if it did actually work it would be amazing. It even is supposed to have a vst plugin that can load patches and send messages from inside your track.

 

But it doesn't work.

 

If I had a half year and some money I would put together a team of devs and make something like this that would actually work, and then sell it for like $50 just to fuck with those midiquest assholes.

exactly, it is a total GUI bait and switch type of program. It looks great from all the screen shots and the proposed features are amazing, but practical use is impossible and non functional

  On 2/9/2012 at 7:06 PM, missingsense said:

wanted to script my own evolver editor in there but I gave up pretty quickly when I couldn't even sync stuff up. probably worth the effort.

there is an Evolver editor built in this midiquest thing. a company called Vyzor makes it.

i used to use it with my Evolver. it worked great. really nice interface & had patch randomization & breeding, too.

for the mac - they never updated it to run on intel chips.

now looks like they removed all downloads from their site.

new version of the editor has been promised for like 5 years now, so don't hold your breath.

http://www.vyzor.com/support/viewforum.php?f=27

I disaggree that hardware is going out. There are more and more interesting hardware boxes showing up lately, and the old stuff is around in the same qunatity as ever. The fact it's hard to integrate has a lot to do with why people shy away from it.

A great model would be to sell the software for like $50 and then each extra editor for another $10 or so. Everyone would use it if it worked well.

To be honest I have a hard time getting my JV1080 to do what I need it to do in 16 part mode let alone editing it. I haven't really used it for a while now where as my Korg 05r/w I use all the time. Mainly 'cause its so much more simple.

you can edit romplers?

  On 2/14/2012 at 12:04 AM, oscillik said:

you can edit romplers?

Sure, if they have envelopes, filters, LFOs, effects, multitimbral setups, etc. Why not?

  On 2/14/2012 at 12:07 AM, sweepstakes said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 12:04 AM, oscillik said:

you can edit romplers?

Sure, if they have envelopes, filters, LFOs, effects, multitimbral setups, etc. Why not?

fair enough, only experience I have with romplers were the JV-1010 and the Proteus 2000 while i was in college.

proteus 2000 was obviously a bit easier to tweak, but most of the time we never really bothered.

The Kawai K4 was the coolest ROMpler I ever played with. Brothomstates apparently got some mileage out of that synth. It sounded great but I was struggling with editing it too. Seems to be a pattern with ROMplers.

Oh the RY30 I had until I got my MPC was cool too. Not all that great sounding but really fun to mess around with, especially in tandem with other gear.

(edited for brainfarts)

In my experience Romplers are very hard to edit even more reason why a decent stable midi editors are needed.

personally I would say that's even more reason to stop buying them.

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:21 PM, BCM said:

personally I would say that's even more reason to stop buying them.

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:21 PM, BCM said:

personally I would say that's even more reason to stop buying them.

Well yeah I've only got two and only bought one this year which was the JV1080. My Korg I've had since 1998. Anyways even tho the JV is a real bitch to program it does come with a wealth of very good presets.

  On 2/14/2012 at 11:36 AM, Promo said:

In my experience Romplers are very hard to edit even more reason why a decent stable midi editors are needed.

in this day in age, there is really no point to owning a hardware 'rompler' unless one is not resourceful enough to find the same retro sampling library online.

all a rompler i from what i understand is a sampler without sampling capability. What piece of gear do you need a hardware editor for where it wouldnt be easier to just find/rip the samples and throw them into Kontakt?