Guest Dodeccaheedron Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Do we know around how many tracks he produced for this, or any quotes of his regarding the album other than his normal description that's used all the time? On (28 mix) got me thinking about this. What if the 28 implies its number at the recording session? How much could exist that we haven't heard? There seems to be a handful of people out there that know of the unreleased Caustic Window material, so I'm hoping the same can be found of this album. P.S. off topic but anything about Surfing on Sine Waves would be excellent as well. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 use the search function. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud capture Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 i'd like to hear the 2hrs of outtakes from lichen, if that were real. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) On 2/16/2012 at 1:35 AM, cloud capture said: i'd like to hear the 2hrs of outtakes from lichen, if that were real. if it was real, and if was 2 hours of him building up the track from scratch, I would love that. It'd be really interesting to hear how he makes his tracks. Edited February 16, 2012 by ganus Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) On 2/16/2012 at 2:02 AM, ganus said: On 2/16/2012 at 1:35 AM, cloud capture said: i'd like to hear the 2hrs of outtakes from lichen, if that were real. if it was real, and if was 2 hours of him building up the track from scratch, I would love that. It'd be really interesting to hear how he makes his tracks. yeah it's real, i have it, and about 72 hours worth of other unreleased material. i'll upload it all just for watmm in the next few days or so... edit: i just need some space, guyz? who has some FTP space or a server or whateverz? Edited February 16, 2012 by sirch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ando Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) On 2/16/2012 at 2:11 AM, YO303 said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mpu5nITbLM Beat me to it. Why does that upload have phasery voices though. Edited February 16, 2012 by Ando Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fromheaven Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 2:06 AM, sirch said: On 2/16/2012 at 2:02 AM, ganus said: On 2/16/2012 at 1:35 AM, cloud capture said: i'd like to hear the 2hrs of outtakes from lichen, if that were real. if it was real, and if was 2 hours of him building up the track from scratch, I would love that. It'd be really interesting to hear how he makes his tracks. yeah it's real, i have it, and about 72 hours worth of other unreleased material. i'll upload it all just for watmm in the next few days or so... edit: i just need some space, guyz? who has some FTP space or a server or whateverz? I gotta hOt FTPx with a nazsty 500MB ready to share with zuper fast 56k-modem. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantk Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 2:06 AM, sirch said: On 2/16/2012 at 2:02 AM, ganus said: On 2/16/2012 at 1:35 AM, cloud capture said: i'd like to hear the 2hrs of outtakes from lichen, if that were real. if it was real, and if was 2 hours of him building up the track from scratch, I would love that. It'd be really interesting to hear how he makes his tracks. yeah it's real, i have it, and about 72 hours worth of other unreleased material. i'll upload it all just for watmm in the next few days or so... edit: i just need some space, guyz? who has some FTP space or a server or whateverz? hahahaha. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sergeantk's signature Hide all signatures My music (zanderone) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drukqs Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Wow, I never really listened to the 28 mix till now. Is this another instance of Rich putting out some random track in place of a remix? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 2:11 AM, YO303 said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mpu5nITbLM Nice one, seemed familiar but I didn't have this one on my computer D: (Trance Europe Exress Vol.1, also had this on Trance Express 3 which I did know about :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHGjdZleMpM) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I will send it to you via morse code.... >.< Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 1:25 AM, Dodeccaheedron said: Do we know around how many tracks he produced for this, or any quotes of his regarding the album other than his normal description that's used all the time? On (28 mix) got me thinking about this. What if the 28 implies its number at the recording session? How much could exist that we haven't heard? There seems to be a handful of people out there that know of the unreleased Caustic Window material, so I'm hoping the same can be found of this album. P.S. off topic but anything about Surfing on Sine Waves would be excellent as well. http://forum.watmm.com/topic/22741-saw-ii-and-its-tracks/page__p__473087__fromsearch__1#entry473087 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 1:35 AM, cloud capture said: i'd like to hear the 2hrs of outtakes from lichen, if that were real. Try Brian Eno's Discreet Music for the original half hour version of essentially the same track. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 11:03 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said: lol very true not that i don't love lichen to little bits, though Oh yes, I prefer [Lichen], primarily because it was actually written rather than comprised of tape loops drifting in and out of phase, as is Eno's custom... But I find it interesting that it somewhat insinuates it could have been a starting point for the album, to emulate a specific Eno track, and then branch off in all these interesting other directions, arguably overtaking the original it was originally partially based on. (Which I guess it ought to, otherwise what's the point?) That's just a guess, though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 1:25 AM, Dodeccaheedron said: Do we know around how many tracks he produced for this, or any quotes of his regarding the album other than his normal description that's used all the time? On (28 mix) got me thinking about this. What if the 28 implies its number at the recording session? How much could exist that we haven't heard? There seems to be a handful of people out there that know of the unreleased Caustic Window material, so I'm hoping the same can be found of this album. P.S. off topic but anything about Surfing on Sine Waves would be excellent as well. It's widely rumoured that the 28Mix of On is indeed a SAW II outtake; Richard had a habit of 'recycling' outtakes that didn't make the cut for a release as remixes. Considering how many variations of Ventolin there are (released and unreleased), I'd say that he probably has quite a few variations of released tracks. On 2/16/2012 at 4:43 AM, drukqs said: Wow, I never really listened to the 28 mix till now. Is this another instance of Rich putting out some random track in place of a remix? Most likely, yes. I remember back on joyrex.com (around the 3rd version of it) I had a flash audio player that would play the 28mix and D-Scape, and everyone thought they were from SAW II. Richard also famously took two tracks at random from a tape labeled 'Polygon Window' and submitted them as the additional tracks on the 2000 reissue of Surfing on Sine Waves. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said: Considering how many variations of Ventolin there are (released and unreleased)... Unreleased Ventolin tracks? Are these the ones from the stolen DAT, or something else? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1756858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 5:14 PM, ZoeB said: On 2/16/2012 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said: Considering how many variations of Ventolin there are (released and unreleased)... Unreleased Ventolin tracks? Are these the ones from the stolen DAT, or something else? Yeah, from the stolen DAT... mostly... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 9:33 PM, Joyrex said: On 2/16/2012 at 5:14 PM, ZoeB said: On 2/16/2012 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said: Considering how many variations of Ventolin there are (released and unreleased)... Unreleased Ventolin tracks? Are these the ones from the stolen DAT, or something else? Yeah, from the stolen DAT... mostly... i'm sorry this just sprung in my mindhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKdocYeSqTA&feature=player_detailpage plz don't kill me evil megaman robot Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 On 2/16/2012 at 12:00 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said: i can imagine that due to the minimal nature of the SAW2 tracks, rich probably had a lot of little jams and outtakes lying around. plus the fact that he had two discs worth of stuff to me implies that he just took the best/his favourite bits and fit it onto the most he could without crossing over into box-set territory (not a whole lot of 3 disc albums out there) wrong. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) It was originally another techno album but he accidentally spilled Grape Drank on the master tapes Grape Drank is well known for having corrosive effects on recordings of drum machines Edited February 17, 2012 by Cryptowen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 yes.. indeed. glad you could laugh at that. .................it's all about the lucid dreaming, mother fuckers. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnix Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 hey Sirch, I know you can be cool, just don't let yourself be all worked up for something so stupid please... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 On 2/17/2012 at 5:59 AM, johnoise said: hey Sirch, I know you can be cool, just don't let yourself be all worked up for something so stupid please... lol. wut? dude, i'm not worked up?? you guys are crazy mchazy in the brain phazy. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnix Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 On 2/17/2012 at 6:06 AM, sirch said: On 2/17/2012 at 5:59 AM, johnoise said: hey Sirch, I know you can be cool, just don't let yourself be all worked up for something so stupid please... lol. wut? dude, i'm not worked up?? you guys are crazy mchazy in the brain phazy. OK dude! I thought you had your linguini all knoted :D Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71838-unreleased-material-from-saw-ii/#findComment-1757389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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