Npoess Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Quote E2-E4, released in 1984, is the first solo recording album by Ash Ra Tempel / Ashra guitarist, Manuel Göttsching. The album consists of a minimalistic hour-long progressive electronic track that is subdivided into single tracks according to the stage of the song. This album is just amazing. The whole album is like a single track that slowly progresses and evolves. I don't think I've heard anything quite like it. It's known to be a very influential electronic music piece. And I'm sure most of you are familiar with this album. So I won't bore you with anymore details. But if you're not familiar with it and you have an hour to spare. Do yourself a favor and give this album a listen all the way through. Sorry if there's already been a thread about this album. Couldn't find one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Q6m_0J1Hs Edited February 25, 2012 by Npoess Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yes. Brilliant piece of music. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) On 2/25/2012 at 10:04 PM, goDel said: Yes. Brilliant piece of music. Indeed! Only discovered it a few months ago (upon learning that a certain basic channel 'reshape' is actually a remix of this) and have been rocking it ever since. I also found this review on discogs to be quite interesting too, can definitely hear how it influenced the early detroit sound: Quote Groundbreaking early electronic track which had a massive influence on some of the pioneers of modern dance mucic... Derrick May said that he and his friends would listen to the whole LP over and over again for weeks, Juan Atkins said the same and it fit in with his early vision of Science fiction music from outer space, and clearly had an influence on his early Model 500 / Metroplex output http://www.discogs.com/Manuel-G%C3%B6ttsching-E2-E4/master/2786 Edited February 25, 2012 by Bob Dobalina Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BobDobalina's signature Hide all signatures CA$HNE$$ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) It's amazing how he managed with the same drum, guitar and synthesizer sounds to keep it so varied and exciting througout the whole thing. Edited February 26, 2012 by Npoess Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 inb4 tauhid Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Perhaps less eclectic, but in a similar vein (imo) is the Canto Ostinato by Simeon ten Holt Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhid Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 On 2/26/2012 at 6:35 PM, Enter a new display name said: inb4 tauhid Manuel Göttsching is a legend. Nothing more has to be said. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Who made good music. (there's all kinds of legends. even in these parts of the internet) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhid Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 True. He actually did do some mediocre stuff after the first two Ashra albums, but when he got it right he killed it. I couldn't believe he didn't even get a mention in the BBC Krautrock documentary. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Apparently it was not a good documentary. Krautrock with no Gottsching is no Krautrock. Simple as that. Epic fail upon the part of the BBC. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) I'm pretty new to Krautrock. What albums should check out that's similar to this album? Something with vintage synthesizers. Besides New Age of Earth. Already have that one. Edited February 26, 2012 by Npoess Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhid Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 On 2/26/2012 at 9:59 PM, goDel said: Apparently it was not a good documentary. Krautrock with no Gottsching is no Krautrock. Simple as that. Epic fail upon the part of the BBC. This. Just checked his site and saw that he had posted The Wire's article about the album from the December issue: http://www.ashra.com/news/pics/wire.pdf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhid Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) On 2/26/2012 at 10:04 PM, Npoess said: I'm pretty new to Krautrock. What albums should check out that's similar to this album? Something with vintage synthesizers. Besides New Age of Earth. Already have that one. Get Dream & Desire and Le Berceau de Cristal. Inventions For Electric Guitar and Blackouts are also awesome, but much more guitar oriented. Edited February 26, 2012 by Tauhid Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 On 2/26/2012 at 10:08 PM, Tauhid said: On 2/26/2012 at 9:59 PM, goDel said: Apparently it was not a good documentary. Krautrock with no Gottsching is no Krautrock. Simple as that. Epic fail upon the part of the BBC. This. Just checked his site and saw that he had posted The Wire's article about the album from the December issue: http://www.ashra.com...s/pics/wire.pdf You sir, are the hero of this thread! Interesting article, to say the least. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhid Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 On 2/26/2012 at 10:21 PM, goDel said: On 2/26/2012 at 10:08 PM, Tauhid said: On 2/26/2012 at 9:59 PM, goDel said: Apparently it was not a good documentary. Krautrock with no Gottsching is no Krautrock. Simple as that. Epic fail upon the part of the BBC. This. Just checked his site and saw that he had posted The Wire's article about the album from the December issue: http://www.ashra.com...s/pics/wire.pdf You sir, are the hero of this thread! Interesting article, to say the least. Indeed. I particularly liked this quote: "...it was too much brain and not enough body. For me music has to make an atmosphere somehow. You don't have to understand it. Just listen to it, it has to give you something. I always miss this in that very academic, mathematical style." I feel like the same thing could be said about a lot of this modular synth music, i.e. someone like Thomas Ankersmit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkreso Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Wow what a gem. Thanks a lot for this Npoess Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1763772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
encey Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Alcofribas is known to get down hard to this. And by 'get down,' I mean 'suck my dick.' Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide encey's signature Hide all signatures essines said: i am hot shit ... that smells like baking bread. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1764208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 not true. ... ok, true. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1764221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) huge fan, for a long time. james murphy ripped it off/paid homage massively with this, right down to the cover art http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKOjhPvqxrU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GLRJThnKfg&feature=related&noredirect=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcBNhiPQsQ&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvWfnA0Xl5c&feature=related Edited February 27, 2012 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72054-manuel-g%C3%B6ttsching-e2-e4/#findComment-1764229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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