kaini Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 1. There are no guilty pleasures. There is only “guilt” and “pleasure” and you really never should conflict the two. 2. Before you commit to saying you hate something that brings joy to people (and doesn’t hurt others), think long and hard about your reasons for doing so. If in doubt, enthusiasm beats cynicism. 3. There is no authenticity, only sincerity. 4. It is more important to be nice than it is to be right. 5. Like what you like and encourage others to do the same. If you do that and keep an open mind, you’re cool. (No one can tell you how you ought to feel.) 6. The concept of “celebrity” is the curse of the modern age, don’t fuel its fire. 7. Quality of writing doesn’t result from other people agreeing or not, it comes from being well-argued and beautifully put. 8. If pressed for instant opinions, try honesty rather than handing down pre-conceived notions. 9. Never imply that a certain kind of fanbase (especially: teenage girls) has any effect whatsoever on artistic merit or credibility. 10. Tread carefully when dealing with matters of myth and legacy. There is nothing romantic about wasting your life; sympathize but don’t glamorize. (Life’s too short to busy yourself with wanting to life forever.) 11. Only a fool calls himself an expert. Do not feel inadequate or intimidated by other people’s knowledge. 12. It’s okay to disregard your own advice every now and then. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 thas church, yo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 it's not mine, for the record: http://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/post/18258927319/phrases-and-philosophies-for-young-critics it's good, though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Indeed Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 nice Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 On 3/3/2012 at 2:13 AM, YO303 said: Indeed i can only dream of having a impressive morrissey-esque music critic quiff like that. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Hounos Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Good list. WATMM is often guilty of this one in particular: On 3/3/2012 at 2:10 AM, kaini said: 9. Never imply that a certain kind of fanbase (especially: teenage girls) has any effect whatsoever on artistic merit or credibility. Hey, Animal Collective have some great songs, who cares who listens to them, ok? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 On 3/3/2012 at 2:10 AM, kaini said: 10. Tread carefully when dealing with matters of myth and legacy. There is nothing romantic about wasting your life; sympathize but don’t glamorize. (Life’s too short to busy yourself with wanting to life forever.) Who wants to life forever? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) my advice for young CRITICS 1) learn your subject 2) learn how to write 3) don't be a cunt that is all. Edited March 3, 2012 by kinski Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) On 3/3/2012 at 3:27 AM, Al Hounos said: Good list. WATMM is often guilty of this one in particular: On 3/3/2012 at 2:10 AM, kaini said: 9. Never imply that a certain kind of fanbase (especially: teenage girls) has any effect whatsoever on artistic merit or credibility. There are no guilty pleasures. There is only “guilt” and “pleasure” and you really never should conflict the two. Edited March 3, 2012 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 On 3/3/2012 at 2:12 AM, kaini said: it's not mine, for the record: http://oneweekoneban...r-young-critics it's good, though. This list is great, many points are ones I've embraced lately, #2 and #5 especially. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Good advice. Especially the bit about enthusiasm. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1767787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechDiff Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 critics are something the world could do without. Just the idea of it, a person whos sole purpose is to criticise stuff that other people do. Such a hateful, pointless existence. I mean, I don't see any harm in being critical of something, so long as that isn't all you're good for. There are loads of members on here who can often be very critical of new films, music, whatever, but they also undertake their own creative endeavours. it's the whole "sitting atop of a throne, judging your fellow mans pathetic attempts at culture and art" attitude while never contributing or even attempting to contribute anything yourself. I always thought it'd be funny to run a blog which does critical reviews of critical reviews. "today we'll be looking at Mark Kermodes review of incy wincy spider, personally I found his opinions to be vapid, preposterous, and so riddled with arrogance that its near impossible to take them remotely seriously..." and so on Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TechDiff's signature Hide all signatures My new album on Ad Noiseam 05/11/2012 http://www.adnoiseam.net/adn151 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 How is this thread not about Twilight? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Why did Bella married Eddy? Bella is clearly into wolf fur. On chapter four Book 2 when she is shopping for a new couch she makes a comment something like "I wish they made couches with wolf fur". I simply don't understand why Stephanie Meyer made Bella a fan of Wolf fur and then marry a vampire instead of a wolfdude. Edited March 5, 2012 by YO303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve33 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Nice list. I need to work on being less of an asshole, and this list will probably help. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide murve33's signature Hide all signatures My Last.Fm: http://www.last.fm/user/murve33 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Leave Skrillex alone! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Professional critics, however, should be more edgy nowadays. At least in our parts most of the stuff they write is somehow greyish talk about everything and nothing at the same time, because they are afraid to point out valid ups and downs. TechDiff: Criticism is very ok, but should be done in moderation (among non-pros) and always, fucking always pointing your own subjective view on any matter. The big difference between pro and non-pro critics is or should be the level of competence and understanding the broader context of a given genre. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gaarg's signature Hide all signatures www.petergaber.com is where I keep my paintings. I used to have a kinky tumblr, but it exploded. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted March 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 On 3/5/2012 at 7:56 PM, gaarg said: Professional critics, however, should be more edgy nowadays. At least in our parts most of the stuff they write is somehow greyish talk about everything and nothing at the same time, because they are afraid to point out valid ups and downs.\The big difference between pro and non-pro critics is or should be the yes and no: some of the stuff pitchfork have written has been absolute drivel because of this http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/368-untilted/ hofstadter's GEB is one of my favourite books, this homage to it is crap, and this review's resemblance to the dialogue chapters from that book is a fucking insult. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) On 3/3/2012 at 3:31 AM, chenGOD said: On 3/3/2012 at 2:10 AM, kaini said: 10. Tread carefully when dealing with matters of myth and legacy. There is nothing romantic about wasting your life; sympathize but don’t glamorize. (Life’s too short to busy yourself with wanting to life forever.) Who wants to life forever? Who dares to love forever? Edited March 5, 2012 by thanks robert moses Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FLA FUR BIS FLE's signature Hide all signatures through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 On 3/5/2012 at 9:12 PM, thanks robert moses said: On 3/3/2012 at 3:31 AM, chenGOD said: On 3/3/2012 at 2:10 AM, kaini said: 10. Tread carefully when dealing with matters of myth and legacy. There is nothing romantic about wasting your life; sympathize but don’t glamorize. (Life’s too short to busy yourself with wanting to life forever.) Who wants to life forever? Who dares to love forever? Wooouu wooooo uuuu woooooo! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gaarg's signature Hide all signatures www.petergaber.com is where I keep my paintings. I used to have a kinky tumblr, but it exploded. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/72203-advice-for-young-critics/#findComment-1768645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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