Modifying Album Track Lists

  On 4/11/2012 at 12:21 AM, zaphod said:

supposedly it's this:

 

there there

the gloaming

sail to the moon

sit down. stand up

go to sleep

whereiendandubegin

scatterbrain

2+2=5

myxomatosis

a wolf at the door

So he removed 4 tracks...interesting. I'll try it out, thanks.

  On 4/10/2012 at 8:24 AM, pigster said:

I never remove files from my hard drive, but have made custom playlists (bibio's mind bokeh - take off your shirt, for example).

HERESY!

Well I can safely say I like Hail to the Thief better now. I'm going to play the other tracks to see if I really like any of the omitted four. I'm sure they're not bad, and that the length of the finished album is really the root of the problem.

Hmmm interesting thing about HTTT. I Always felt like I loved most of the tracks on it but it suffered for being too long. I'm gonna have to check it out. I LOVE Backdrifts though so that might be a problem.

What's this about OK Computer In Rainbows tracklist thing?

Yeah I love some of the tracks too (I will into punch up= amazing), but the ten track version definitely trims the fat off the album and makes for an enjoyable listen (I personally think it's better, but that's just like. my opinion man.)

  On 4/11/2012 at 2:42 AM, Homestar Runner said:

What's this about OK Computer In Rainbows tracklist thing?

http://puddlegum.net/radiohead-01-and-10/

  On 4/11/2012 at 3:22 PM, peteisfat said:

  On 4/11/2012 at 2:42 AM, Homestar Runner said:

What's this about OK Computer In Rainbows tracklist thing?

 

http://puddlegum.net...head-01-and-10/

http://puddlegum.net/radiohead-01-and-10/

I personally wasn't very impressed.

I divided Drukqs so that Disc 1 is all high speed glitchy madness and Disc 2 is all ambient piano works. For Disc 2 I removed the happy birthday song and the one with people screaming. I also changed the order of the songs for each disc so they flow better.

This modified version is so much more cohesive and actually feels like a real album, not just a bunch of killer tracks mixed in with random garbage (like all Aphex albums). In this form it is one of my favorite albums.

Makes me think that some musical artists might serve well to have really good editors, as great writers or film makers do.

  On 4/11/2012 at 7:15 PM, autopilot said:

Makes me think that some musical artists might serve well to have really good editors, as great writers or film makers do.

Speaking of which, Tonetta. Dude cranks out some pretty killer pop ditties, but rather than take the time to fully develop them, he'll just make a dozen virtually identical demos with different lyrics about his ex wife or government conspiracies or his massive transsexual scat fetish. It's like, with someone to keep him focused he could have been Quincy Jones, but instead he's Wesley Willis

never got why people dislike drukqs. i think the mixture of minimal piano music and breakneck drill n bass is brilliant. it's a great aesthetic statement. sort of anachronistic like julius deane's office in neuromancer. sounds like it was recorded in fin de siecle paris by a time traveler. love that album.

This is why:

erm, no?

I've never understood why people find Drukqs jarring, but I think I have a short attention span, because usually when people call an album good or consistent or cohesive, I find them to be MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING. Animal Collective is a perfect example: I love Feels and Strawberry Jam because every track sounds different, and the flow of the album takes you to a lot of different places. But I rarely listen to Merriweather because every song sounds the same!

Drukqs works perfectly, the piano tracks provide breathing space for the more insane dnb based tracks. It's all about tension and release. It feels like a soundtrack to me, and it works nicely as the soundtrack to someones life.

That's the problem with a lot of albums out there, there's no breathing space, it's all crammed full of ideas and it just gives me a headache. Good albums have quiet, simple bits either as separate songs or as smaller sections of longer songs.

This is one reason why I don't rearrange albums, especially if it's one I like. I find it disrespectful actually, if the artist wants it there, I leave it. Even if I don't like it, it usually adds to the whole. There are rare instances where I skip certain tracks, but usually that's only when I'm listening to albums that I don't particularly like as a whole.

  On 4/11/2012 at 7:15 PM, autopilot said:

I divided Drukqs so that Disc 1 is all high speed glitchy madness and Disc 2 is all ambient piano works.

I did this too, and was able to enjoy it more. I like all of the tracks but find the sequence very jarring and not too enjoyable.

  On 4/11/2012 at 10:41 PM, autopilot said:

This is why:

Yes.

  On 4/12/2012 at 9:08 PM, Springymajig said:

I've never understood why people find Drukqs jarring, but I think I have a short attention span, because usually when people call an album good or consistent or cohesive, I find them to be MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING. Animal Collective is a perfect example: I love Feels and Strawberry Jam because every track sounds different, and the flow of the album takes you to a lot of different places. But I rarely listen to Merriweather because every song sounds the same!

 

Drukqs works perfectly, the piano tracks provide breathing space for the more insane dnb based tracks. It's all about tension and release. It feels like a soundtrack to me, and it works nicely as the soundtrack to someones life.

 

That's the problem with a lot of albums out there, there's no breathing space, it's all crammed full of ideas and it just gives me a headache. Good albums have quiet, simple bits either as separate songs or as smaller sections of longer songs.

 

This is one reason why I don't rearrange albums, especially if it's one I like. I find it disrespectful actually, if the artist wants it there, I leave it. Even if I don't like it, it usually adds to the whole. There are rare instances where I skip certain tracks, but usually that's only when I'm listening to albums that I don't particularly like as a whole.

THANK YOU

most of you guys have no imagination. how boring would drukqs be if it was all piano tracks on one disc? it would just blend together and suck. i really hope you guys who make music have some concept of tension, otherwise your albums must be boring as fuck.

  On 4/12/2012 at 9:14 PM, zaphod said:

  On 4/12/2012 at 9:08 PM, Springymajig said:

I've never understood why people find Drukqs jarring, but I think I have a short attention span, because usually when people call an album good or consistent or cohesive, I find them to be MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING. Animal Collective is a perfect example: I love Feels and Strawberry Jam because every track sounds different, and the flow of the album takes you to a lot of different places. But I rarely listen to Merriweather because every song sounds the same!

 

Drukqs works perfectly, the piano tracks provide breathing space for the more insane dnb based tracks. It's all about tension and release. It feels like a soundtrack to me, and it works nicely as the soundtrack to someones life.

 

That's the problem with a lot of albums out there, there's no breathing space, it's all crammed full of ideas and it just gives me a headache. Good albums have quiet, simple bits either as separate songs or as smaller sections of longer songs.

 

This is one reason why I don't rearrange albums, especially if it's one I like. I find it disrespectful actually, if the artist wants it there, I leave it. Even if I don't like it, it usually adds to the whole. There are rare instances where I skip certain tracks, but usually that's only when I'm listening to albums that I don't particularly like as a whole.

 

THANK YOU

 

most of you guys have no imagination. how boring would drukqs be if it was all piano tracks on one disc? it would just blend together and suck. i really hope you guys who make music have some concept of tension, otherwise your albums must be boring as fuck.

+1000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

I can appreciate tension and release, of course. And I prefer an album with tension and release versus one that feels monotone because it's too "consistent".

I don't have a problem with something upbeat/spastic being followed or preceded by a mellow or somber track. But there's a smooth way to do it, and there's a jarring way to do it.

Aphex makes some great tracks but he has no idea how to construct a moving tracklist. No multi-paragraph essays of fanboy hyperbole are gonna change that.

If anything is jarring it deeply affects my delicate sensibilities

  On 4/11/2012 at 7:15 PM, autopilot said:

Makes me think that some musical artists might serve well to have really good editors, as great writers or film makers do.

They usually do. It's called a record label. I've had net-labels tell me what to call my albums or which tracks to use, or what to use as album art. I can't imagine what it's like actually being on label like Warp..

  On 4/10/2012 at 7:01 PM, hautlle said:

You guys only edit out whole tracks? I edit out minuscule portions of tracks that I don't like.

 

That little snare sound 35 seconds into 4 from the RDJ album? Yup, I cut it out. That shit won't be ruining my listening experience anymore.

Just checked 4 @ 0:20-0:50 min range. sounds exactly like the rest of snares in the track.

  On 4/13/2012 at 12:13 AM, autopilot said:

Aphex makes some great tracks but he has no idea how to construct a moving tracklist.

pfft

  On 4/12/2012 at 9:31 PM, patternoverlap said:

  On 4/12/2012 at 9:14 PM, zaphod said:

  On 4/12/2012 at 9:08 PM, Springymajig said:

I've never understood why people find Drukqs jarring, but I think I have a short attention span, because usually when people call an album good or consistent or cohesive, I find them to be MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING. Animal Collective is a perfect example: I love Feels and Strawberry Jam because every track sounds different, and the flow of the album takes you to a lot of different places. But I rarely listen to Merriweather because every song sounds the same!

 

Drukqs works perfectly, the piano tracks provide breathing space for the more insane dnb based tracks. It's all about tension and release. It feels like a soundtrack to me, and it works nicely as the soundtrack to someones life.

 

That's the problem with a lot of albums out there, there's no breathing space, it's all crammed full of ideas and it just gives me a headache. Good albums have quiet, simple bits either as separate songs or as smaller sections of longer songs.

 

This is one reason why I don't rearrange albums, especially if it's one I like. I find it disrespectful actually, if the artist wants it there, I leave it. Even if I don't like it, it usually adds to the whole. There are rare instances where I skip certain tracks, but usually that's only when I'm listening to albums that I don't particularly like as a whole.

 

THANK YOU

 

most of you guys have no imagination. how boring would drukqs be if it was all piano tracks on one disc? it would just blend together and suck. i really hope you guys who make music have some concept of tension, otherwise your albums must be boring as fuck.

 

+1000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Seriously, thank you. And I must add that I'd rather have an album with a few EPIC tracks and a couple decent ones than a consistently decent album. Consistently decent ones always see to be rated more highly and it boggles my mind.

  On 4/13/2012 at 2:24 AM, Mcdergbit said:

  On 4/10/2012 at 7:01 PM, hautlle said:

You guys only edit out whole tracks? I edit out minuscule portions of tracks that I don't like.

 

That little snare sound 35 seconds into 4 from the RDJ album? Yup, I cut it out. That shit won't be ruining my listening experience anymore.

 

Just checked 4 @ 0:20-0:50 min range. sounds exactly like the rest of snares in the track.

I was taking the piss man. I just listen to albums as a whole and largely agree with Springymajig above. If I really hate a track i'll skip it, but that's only after multiple listens and becoming familiar with the album. You have to at least give it a chance.

  On 4/10/2012 at 7:01 PM, hautlle said:

You guys only edit out whole tracks? I edit out minuscule portions of tracks that I don't like.

 

That little snare sound 35 seconds into 4 from the RDJ album? Yup, I cut it out. That shit won't be ruining my listening experience anymore.

Actually reminds me of the time, I did a noise profile of that HIGH pitched tone in Ventolin - and removed it from the track. I didn't keep it like that but it was much more listenable.