sheatheman Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Even though I am a badass producer, I have never come to know the golden secrets of MIDI files and those really dry MIDI type of songs on sites like this. What software is used to create these? Are we talking about trackers? Because it seems like there is a very specific, limited software that is used to create ringtones and the like. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) You can use any software that is capable of saving MIDI files.. I did a lot of stuff for Doom levels using an old version of Cakewalk: But I'm sure newer sequencers exist for pure MIDI file creation. The only reason the songs sound limited is because of the super generic General MIDI sound set used by most soundcards. Edited April 12, 2012 by modey Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1797786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) great info. tell me more about the General MIDI sound set, because it sounds like this is key. edit. i just exported some midi from reason, but it's doing all the tracks as piano. lol. Edited April 12, 2012 by sheatheman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1797809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). Edited April 13, 2012 by oscillik Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1798847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 On 4/12/2012 at 3:57 AM, sheatheman said: i just exported some midi from reason, but it's doing all the tracks as piano. lol. badass producer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1798849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 On 4/13/2012 at 3:25 PM, oscillik said: Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). that was helpful. thank you. i'm installing reaper now. you guys have provided a nice springboard for this pursuit, albeit a superfluous one. hopefully i'll be jamming to some custom midi ringtones on my iphone soon. On 4/13/2012 at 3:26 PM, BCM said: On 4/12/2012 at 3:57 AM, sheatheman said: i just exported some midi from reason, but it's doing all the tracks as piano. lol. badass producer yeah... maybe "assbad" is a better word. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1799718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 On 4/13/2012 at 3:25 PM, oscillik said: Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). I thought they just used different codecs that were compatible with the GM2 spec? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1799745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) man i miss General Midi fm synth built into to old PC x86 motherboards i remember being like actually livid when the Doom OST was released and it used those shitty post 1995 sample based midi file sounds. i won't have any of that, i refuse it with a solid gold fist Edited April 16, 2012 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1800186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 On 4/15/2012 at 11:37 PM, xxx said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu53m4Ym-VU when I read polyphonic ringtone in osc's post, I started humming this to myself, and didn't realize I what I was humming until I got to this post. funny how brains work innit Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1800218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 On 4/15/2012 at 2:17 AM, chenGOD said: On 4/13/2012 at 3:25 PM, oscillik said: Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). I thought they just used different codecs that were compatible with the GM2 spec? I thought that's what I said anyway? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1800352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Oh I must have misunderstood this line: "Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format" I thought you meant like it was a different MIDI format from GM. My bad. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73091-midi-software-and-early-2000s-ringtones/#findComment-1800536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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