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Researchers in Spain used a huge archive known as the Million Song Dataset, which breaks down audio and lyrical content into data that can be crunched, to study pop songs from 1955 to 2010.

 

A team led by artificial intelligence specialist Joan Serra at the Spanish National Research Council ran music from the last 50 years through some complex algorithms and found that pop songs have become intrinsically louder and more bland in terms of the chords, melodies and types of sound used.

 

 

http://www.reuters.c...E86P0R820120726

 

 

finally some science to back up our old-man complaints

Thank you for bloating my "being right" complex.

 

 

How am I supposed to contain all this douchebaggy smugness?

Edited by Xyrofen

I think one could argue the merit in pop music is in the lyrics, which I doubt that got analyzed.

 

But most of the lyrics are probably the same as well. About love and sutff.

Damn right it's true, especially those electrodance / r&b tracks are louder / noisier then most merzbow stuff, i can't even listen to it on low volume and then those 3 notes chords/melodies they keep repeating not to mention the retarded lyrics, makes me wanna puke!

  On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said:

This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song!

  On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said:

I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns.

  On 7/27/2012 at 10:26 AM, ZiggomaticV17 said:

the merit in pop music is in the lyrics

 

rah rah

 

ah ah ah

 

roma roma-ma

 

ga ga

 

ooh la la

 

 

 

 

BABEH BABEH BABEH

  On 7/27/2012 at 12:52 PM, triachus said:
  On 7/27/2012 at 10:26 AM, ZiggomaticV17 said:

the merit in pop music is in the lyrics

 

rah rah

 

ah ah ah

 

roma roma-ma

 

ga ga

 

ooh la la

 

 

 

 

BABEH BABEH BABEH

 

Also...

 

Girls, we run this mother (yeah) [4x]

 

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

Who run this mother? Girls

Who run this mother? Girls

Who run this mother? Girls

Who run this mother? Girls

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

Who run the world? Girls (girls)

(chorus)

Come here girl

Go ahead, be gone with it

Come to the back

Go ahead, be gone with it

VIP

Go ahead, be gone with it

Drinks on me

Go ahead, be gone with it

Let me see what you're working with

Go ahead, be gone with it

Look at those hips

Go ahead, be gone with it

You make me smile

Go ahead, be gone with it

Go ahead child

Go ahead, be gone with it

And get your sexy on

Go ahead, be gone with it

 

Get your sexy on

Go ahead, be gone with it

 

Get your sexy on

Go ahead, be gone with it

 

Get your sexy on

Go ahead, be gone with it

 

Get your sexy on

Go ahead, be gone with it

 

Get your sexy on

Go ahead, be gone with it

 

Get your sexy on

Go ahead, be gone with it

 

Get your sexy on

  On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said:

This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song!

  On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said:

I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns.

What do the Spanish know about music?

 

Pfffffffffffffffft!

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  On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said:

this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole
  On 7/27/2012 at 1:19 PM, Dan C said:

What do the Spanish know about music?

 

Pfffffffffffffffft!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEeqkJfuf7M&feature=player_detailpage
  On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said:

This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song!

  On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said:

I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns.

Guitar music is the same too.

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

 

I don't know, I don't know

I don't really know what's wrong with me

 

I don't know, I don't know

I don't really know what's wrong with me

 

I don't know, I don't know

I don't really know what's wrong with me

 

What's wrong with me, what's wrong with me

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

What'll it take to make you people dance

 

I don't know, I don't know

I don't really know what's wrong with me

 

I don't know, I don't know

I don't really know what's wrong with me

 

I don't know, I don't know

I don't really know what's wrong with me

 

What's wrong with me, what's wrong with me

Edited by feltcher
Guest ruiagnelo

Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you

Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you

Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you

Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you

Drop dat ass ya shake it fast ya

Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya

Drop dat ass ya shake it fast ya

Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya

Now back,back,back it up

a back,back,back it up

a back,back,back it up

a back,back,back it up

Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit it

Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit it

Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit it

Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit it

It's all written by the same select people. For instance, you can blame this guy for a lot of it:

 

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It's really nothing new - select few producers dominate the pop music in all decades of the 20th century, especially the 1940s and 50s when hit songs regularly quite a few, even not a dozen so, covers the year they debuted, i.e. Pop Standards. Hell, back then people would actually make money for covering hits from the Rhythm & Blues charts (previously called "race music") for the white audiences.

 

Now the industry is more refined, centralized and monopoly-driven than ever, mostly because the records labels are dependent on licensing and digital sales. Look at that Flo Rida guy for instance - he can't really sing, rap, or dance - he doesn't write his own music - all of his singles are lazy samples or near-covers of past Billboard hits and yet HE is everywhere. His label puts his music in commercials, E! and MTV reality show soundtracks, promotional bumps, and on all corporate owned radio stations. Enough people continue to eat that shit up. Even the most hardened indie or underground music listener, if drunk enough, might find themselves dancing to it at a wedding reception. That's the reality - it's shoved down our throats - louder and more compressed than ever.

 

Now I'm not bitter about any of this. The dumb masses absorb it all, and hell, I find myself enjoying some Top40 hits here and there. I just find the whole industry hilarious. It's just the RIAA lobby shit that pisses me off.

Edited by joshuatx

Joshua - that's not entirely true. Plenty of pop artists wrote their own songs:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xATUw_ZVTzQ

(prince wrote everything on this album bar one song which was a collab)

 

(duran duran wrote everything on Seven and the Ragged Tiger - still my fave)

 

(rik ocasek wrote everything on this album)

 

Stevie Wonder (ok he might not be "pop" per se, but his big hits were certainly in the pop vein), Howard Jones, Billy Joel and so on.

That's not to say that what you write isn't accurate, but there are certainly plenty of really successful pop artists who have written all (or a large portion of) their own material.

백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들.

 

Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials.

 

  On 7/27/2012 at 7:51 PM, chenGOD said:

Stevie Wonder (ok he might not be "pop" per se, but his big hits were certainly in the pop vein), Howard Jones, Billy Joel and so on.

That's not to say that what you write isn't accurate, but there are certainly plenty of really successful pop artists who have written all (or a large portion of) their own material.

 

Oh I completely agree. Prince especially, he's written great songs for others well (Sinead O'Conner for example) and there are still a lot of artists in Top40 writing their own material, and there always have been. I got carried away in mentioning that there are always behind-the-scenes composers to consider, that was an inaccurate blanket statement on my part.

Guest Frankie5fingers
  On 7/27/2012 at 8:21 PM, VIII said:
  On 7/27/2012 at 9:12 AM, triachus said:

pop songs have become intrinsically louder and more bland in terms of the chords, melodies and types of sound used.

 

also, how are chords, melodies and "types of sound" objectively measured as good or bad?

bland doesn't mean bad. it just means there isn't much variety in the songs. which is somewhat true. most songs will follow the same 1 4 5 pattern (or something similar) and typically never use anything more crazier than a minor chord. (not always true but the majority follow this pattern) not many diminished or 7's in pop songs either but once and awhile they are thrown in but even that isn't much variety. this doesn't make these songs bad cause as you say its all objective. but they didn't say it was bad.

 

also, those producers didn't write the music. but they have had a hand in a majority of pop songs. they're producers, thats their job. not to create songs, but to tweak them. to make suggestions. no record label lets any artist release a song without having a producer at least look over it. thats why a lot of pop tunes do sound the same (At least many artist under a similar label). cause every producer has that one "trick" that they do.

Edited by Frankie5fingers

I AM THE TABLE

 

  On 7/27/2012 at 12:49 PM, xxx said:

Old tunes re-recorded with increased loudness, simpler chord progressions and different instruments could sound new and fashionable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY

in a minor key

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3xtMZvG2WI

 

lol

Fuck that song. Thank you.

Edited by baph
  On 7/27/2012 at 12:49 PM, xxx said:

 

The most annoying song I've heard in a long time. And the radio station that plays at my work, plays it like 6 times a day.

 

 

Unnnggrrrrhhhhhhh!,ZXZ"!GEGW>njQ!!!!!!"22223

Edited by Npoess
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