chassis Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 This is why the iPhone data gathering was irrelevant. Sorry that its liveleak, some great tunes in it though. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=761_1347068077 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 It is inevitable now that some of us, in the near future, will decide to become true cyberpunks. The internet will no longer be the medium of communication for those trying to remain anonymous, underground. Public space is already in the process of becoming part real, part virtual as well monitored, and militarized. Social networking will likely take on new, even more infrastructural forms and implant itself stronger in the populace. Those of us who don't agree with the way the world is moving will have to wear masks of some sort, physical or virtual. Communicating in secret will be the norm. Something deeper and more fleshed out than Tor will take this task on. There will be a truly deep divide between those who play along with the game of our world, and those who choose to drop out of the predominant metanarrative. What I'm typing right now will be indexed and linked to my personal profile, whose data input will reach an abrupt end sometime not so far off. tldr Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1875113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 damn, dude... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1875186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantk Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 shit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sergeantk's signature Hide all signatures My music (zanderone) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1875519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 On 9/9/2012 at 9:51 PM, chassis said: This is why the iPhone data gathering was irrelevant. Sorry that its liveleak, some great tunes in it though. http://www.liveleak....=761_1347068077 Quite alarming... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1875842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 So the FBI raided Binney's home and held him at gunpoint back in 2007 - the same man who was considered the NSA's technical genius. Ironic that they served the same government. Shows how corrupt our "national security" is. Thank you for sharing this, Chassis. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1875854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d0 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JJZJsAFAU Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide 4d0's signature Hide all signatures Support for the government is a Stockholm syndrome. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1875866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) Okay... Edited September 12, 2012 by ghOsty Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1876027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadarJammer Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Quote Code-named Stellar Wind, or "The Program" to insiders, the full scope of the surveillance has not been made public. That's hilarious. I bet they also refer to themselves as "the company" like they do in all those shitty scifi shows and movies. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1876030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 The CIA actually refers to itself as the Company IRL, so the NSA is SOL on that one. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1876046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 On 9/9/2012 at 10:30 PM, Salvatorin said: There will be a truly deep divide between those who play along with the game of our world, and those who choose to drop out of the predominant metanarrative. http://youtu.be/hibuD6huMic Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gmanyo's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1876047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 On 9/12/2012 at 4:29 AM, gmanyo said: On 9/9/2012 at 10:30 PM, Salvatorin said: There will be a truly deep divide between those who play along with the game of our world, and those who choose to drop out of the predominant metanarrative. http://youtu.be/hibuD6huMic now that's what I call real art Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1876061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadarJammer Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 i found some pretty good tinfoil hats here http://www.youtube.com/user/1967sander Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1877595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Shouldn't it be fairly simple to see if your phone is recording and transmitting information on its own? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide azatoth's signature Hide all signatures last.fm the biggest illusion is yourself Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1877743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 run: algorithm for locate "anti capitalist" run: elimination by "botched burglary" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1877751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1920520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Brings to mind William Burroughs' allegory about the talking asshole. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1920525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Quote Shouldn't it be fairly simple to see if your phone is recording and transmitting information on its own? not necessarily, with sophisticated enough technology which I'm sure the NSA has had for years, you can track the GPS movements of a phone remotely even while it is off. Only taking the battery out will stop potential transmission what bugs me about this whole reality is that there are so many people who take comfort in one of two modes of thought -"If you aren't doing anything wrong you don't have anything to hide" or -"So what? you can't stop the progression of technology, this is an inevitable result of communication technology becoming more advanced" I dont have the energy right now to argue with either of these cop-out belief systems, but i will in a few days. regardless of the obvious violation of our civil rights and violation of the law that happened after 9/11 in regards to mass surveillance, to me the biggest problem is people (of a younger generation) who are raised into a world where they assume that the government can watch them/spy on them if they wish to. This creates a massive chilling effect that is mostly imperceptible to the general population. Your behavior will be intrinsically changed and modulated based on even the unconscious thought that you may be watched.. It started with CCTV cameras everywhere and now it's expanded to private e-mails, phone calls and gps location. I personally believe this is by design. You can't do outright totalitarian fascism anymore in this world, especially in an advanced western society. People would resist it, but if you can simply intimidate people away from doing 'bad' things under the specter of surveillance you're essentially achieving the same results as a top down fascistic state but with less chance of people rising up against it. Edited December 19, 2012 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1920526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 i'm afraid to edit my post because of the board glitch-out but I wanted to add that this man's revelations are not new information. Back in 2005 it was revealed by the NY times that this was happening, but even they decided to sit on the story for an entire year at the request of the White house (it very well could have cost Bush the 2004 election). Then all the democrats and republicans together voted on the telecom immunity bill, which effectively gives retro active legal immunity to any and all corporations that let the government use their information to spy on americans without warrants. It all sounds pretty ridiculous, but it's true Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1920541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/outrage-forces-instagram-to-back-down-on-plan-to-sell-user-photos-to-advertisers-3331747.html Instagram changed their policy so they can "technically" sell your photos. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75613-put-on-your-tinfoil-hats/#findComment-1920587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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