LimpyLoo Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 How about a thread devoted to improving our craft? Jazz/DnB drummer Mark Guiliana talking about different compositional elements: pt. 2 (performance): Cleaning up "muddy" mixes (a common problem IMHO): Nerd explains how to attain Dilla swing: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Great idea! I can't think of any videos right now but I'm sure I'll contribute at some point! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1886767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantk Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 On 10/5/2012 at 1:37 AM, LimpyLoo said: Cleaning up "muddy" mixes (a common problem IMHO): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weucxpmYYvw&feature=plcp good video ill post a bunch later Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sergeantk's signature Hide all signatures My music (zanderone) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1886773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 On 10/5/2012 at 2:01 AM, sergeantk said: On 10/5/2012 at 1:37 AM, LimpyLoo said: Cleaning up "muddy" mixes (a common problem IMHO): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weucxpmYYvw&feature=plcp good video Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Goiter Sanchez's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud - http://soundcloud.com/swegunoFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sweguno Mixcloud - https://www.mixcloud.com/Sweguno/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1886819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 The RecordingRevolution stuff is decent. He did 60 vids called "5 minutes to a better" that I found helpful. I try to ignore the fact that all the songs he mixes are about devoting your life to Jesus. Great video if you wanna understand basic synthesis in and out: I love breakcore. There's a million ways to make it. Here's some techniques and ideas: A drastically slowed-down "Flim" to hear what's actually going on: Also, I might start another thread where I post audio examples of different concepts like the Haas Effect, Sidechain Compression, Advanced Harmony, Metric Modulation, Classic Polyrhythms, etc. Does that sound cool? Like a workshop thread where folks can shed ideas and whatnot? Personally, I'd love to see a resource like that get developed here. I'd love to see how everyone makes beats... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1886871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Reggae Lee Bowyer Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 I would be very interested to see or read about some different break manipulation techniques using Renoise. I tinkered with trackers years ago and I remember some great uses of the sample re-triggering and offsets but I couldn't wrap my head around it at the time. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide A Reggae Lee Bowyer's signature Hide all signatures open your mind Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1886874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud capture Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 the story behind the glory Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1886875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotosa Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 On 10/5/2012 at 8:33 AM, Fraxinus said: I would be very interested to see or read about some different break manipulation techniques using Renoise. I tinkered with trackers years ago and I remember some great uses of the sample re-triggering and offsets but I couldn't wrap my head around it at the time. Check out the DAED Demo in renoise 2.8 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide skotosa's signature Hide all signatures Artist Name: SkiaSoundcloud http://www.last.fm/user/skotosa Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1886877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCONES TO DIE FOR Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 http://youtu.be/TEjOdqZFvhY This one is amazing in so many ways. You need to check this guy out. A very good intro to mixing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 good thread! limpyloo you're the best noob in ages. well done. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frankie5fingers Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 On 10/5/2012 at 7:16 PM, BCM said: good thread! limpyloo you're the best noob in ages. well done. i gotta agree. this is a great thread. its helping me out quite a bit. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) On 10/5/2012 at 7:16 PM, BCM said: good thread! limpyloo you're the best noob in ages. well done. Thanks a bunch. I got a sh-101 so my ass is sorted but for all y'all that don't here's how to make some acid bass (kinda Ableton-specific, but hey whatever): I study Brazilian drumming and I've found that Brazilian 16th notes--when trying to emulate the rhythms of an instrument called the Tamborim--have alot in common with "wonky beats" and Dilla swing and all that. If you're having trouble breathing life into your drums (quantized-to-grid drums can sound a bit rigid) this is great stuff to think about. This guy gets into it a bit towards the end (sorry for the shitty audio): So here's my findings about Brazilian 16th's and Dilla feel: they're both best explained in terms of 5's. 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 They both accent 1 and 4. The only difference is that with Brazilian 16th's you would actually play 2 and 3 as ghost notes (i.e. quiet notes) whereas with the Dilla feel you would not play them at all. Keep in mind that the 5 is always silent and is really just a place-holder. Also keep in mind that this will sound awkward at slower tempos but as it gets faster it will sound smoother. So if your DAW is up to the task of odd meters, this might be fun to actually set it to a grid. If not, you'll just have to slum it and use your ears (you know, like Dilla and Brazilian drummers ). Edited October 5, 2012 by LimpyLoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
th555 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 LimpyLoo, there's no video or link in your last post. And great thread! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide th555's signature Hide all signatures https://www.youtube.com/user/THkaas/videos https://thisjepisje.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/th555 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) (Oops!) I got a sh-101 so my ass is sorted but for all y'all that don't here's how to make some acid bass (kinda Ableton-specific, but hey whatever): I study Brazilian drumming and I've found that Brazilian 16th notes--when trying to emulate the rhythms of an instrument called the Tamborim--have alot in common with "wonky beats" and Dilla swing and all that. If you're having trouble breathing life into your drums (quantized-to-grid drums can sound a bit rigid) this is great stuff to think about. This guy gets into it a bit towards the end (sorry for the shitty audio): So here's my findings about Brazilian 16th's and Dilla feel: they're both best explained in terms of 5's. 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 They both accent 1 and 4. The only difference is that with Brazilian 16th's you would actually play 2 and 3 as ghost notes (i.e. quiet notes) whereas with the Dilla feel you would not play them at all. Keep in mind that the 5 is always silent and is really just a place-holder. Also keep in mind that this will sound awkward at slower tempos but as it gets faster it will sound smoother. So if your DAW is up to the task of odd meters, this might be fun to actually set it to a grid. If not, you'll just have to slum it and use your ears (you know, like Dilla and Brazilian drummers ). Edited October 6, 2012 by LimpyLoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantk Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 On 10/5/2012 at 8:09 AM, LimpyLoo said: Does that sound cool? Like a workshop thread where folks can shed ideas and whatnot? Personally, I'd love to see a resource like that get developed here. I'd love to see how everyone makes beats... i think this is a really cool idea. it always helps me to learn what others do, get some new perspectives to help me develop my own Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sergeantk's signature Hide all signatures My music (zanderone) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 A watmm wiki would be a great idea for this kind of stuff. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1887767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Here is an entertaining video of Telefon Tel Aviv's Joshua Eustis giving a tutorial on how to make dubstep bass... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5JSavlKfio&feature=plcp Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Goiter Sanchez's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud - http://soundcloud.com/swegunoFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sweguno Mixcloud - https://www.mixcloud.com/Sweguno/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1888627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frankie5fingers Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 On 10/10/2012 at 6:05 AM, Goiter Sanchez said: Here is an entertaining video of Telefon Tel Aviv's Joshua Eustis giving a tutorial on how to make dubstep bass... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5JSavlKfio&feature=plcp he really does make it sound easy-peasy japanesy. lolgreat vid Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1888767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hma Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 lex your skril. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1888834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted October 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75957-the-technique-thread/#findComment-1889397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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