Guest yanG Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) http://www.doepfer.de/Dark_Energy_e.htm Can't wait to start patching, back to the basics! I'm so excited I have to post before I receive it! Who's got (semi) modulars? Any websites to recommend? Edited October 14, 2012 by yanG Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'm jealous (I wanted for one some month ago but could finally only go for a Monotribe). Have fun with it ! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Lucas's signature Hide all signatures antape @ soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokn Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yeah, have fun with it, also jealous. Think, my budget will enable only a Monotribe as well. Antape, you are happy with it? Complicated to use with a sequencer and computer? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tokn's signature Hide all signatures Check my dusty tunes and mixes over here: https://soundcloud.com/2kn Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) On 10/15/2012 at 12:49 PM, tokn said: Yeah, have fun with it, also jealous. Think, my budget will enable only a Monotribe as well. Antape, you are happy with it? Complicated to use with a sequencer and computer? I really like the Monotribe for what it is : it's in my opinion a very good sounding simple analogue synthesizer. The filter is a great fun and the LFO is a good thing to experiment with. What is frustrating about this synth is definitely the lack of MIDI. I've used it in some of my tracks, in sync with Reaper (which outputs a click to the Sync IN of the Monotribe) and although this allow you to add simple and sexy acid (or not) lines to your compositions, it's not really convenient to use (you have to reset the Monotribe sequencer by pressing 'stop / play' every time you stop your DAW ; and anyway the internal sequencer of the box is very limited). It's also probably fair to mention it can be great for some more atmospheric or pad sounds if you layer several tracks and play with some effects (example in the track of my signature : the intro synths). I really love its sound and I'm considering to buy a kit for feeding it with MIDI from Reaper, which would be really cool. I'm kinda broke right now but I think I'll buy one in a near future. Hope that'll help you to make up your mind ! Edited October 15, 2012 by Antape Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Lucas's signature Hide all signatures antape @ soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) On 10/14/2012 at 8:08 PM, yanG said: Who's got (semi) modulars? Any websites to recommend? http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum Edited October 15, 2012 by kakapo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 On 10/14/2012 at 8:08 PM, yanG said: http://www.doepfer.d...rk_Energy_e.htm Can't wait to start patching, back to the basics! I'm so excited I have to post before I receive it! Who's got (semi) modulars? Any websites to recommend? This thing looks cool but it seems like it doesn't have that many connections to F with. Enough to have fun, though, for sure. Are you using it with other modules? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 the dark energy is excellent. I use mine on almost every track I make. as it is relatively basic, and there is only octave & two voices max at a time, there are some serious limitations, but if you are creative with it, you can still make lots of interesting sounds. Ideally, I'd love to get a second one and make a full-fledged beast of a monosynth, but that probably won't happen for quite a while. this should become a DE patch exchange thread Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechDiff Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 On 10/14/2012 at 8:08 PM, yanG said: http://www.doepfer.de/Dark_Energy_e.htm Can't wait to start patching, back to the basics! I'm so excited I have to post before I receive it! Who's got (semi) modulars? Any websites to recommend? Woo! Congrats! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TechDiff's signature Hide all signatures My new album on Ad Noiseam 05/11/2012 http://www.adnoiseam.net/adn151 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbreaker Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 On 10/15/2012 at 2:04 PM, Antape said: On 10/15/2012 at 12:49 PM, tokn said: Yeah, have fun with it, also jealous. Think, my budget will enable only a Monotribe as well. Antape, you are happy with it? Complicated to use with a sequencer and computer? I really love its sound and I'm considering to buy a kit for feeding it with MIDI from Reaper, which would be really cool. I'm kinda broke right now but I think I'll buy one in a near future. Hope that'll help you to make up your mind ! I don't know what your budget is like but http://amazingmachines.com.br/products_miditribe.html can be had for $65, which seems pretty reasonable to me for the options it would open up on the miditribe... or there's a DIY version if your handy with electronics. That said, I haven't upgraded mine yet, sort of think the limitations of the sequencer are a part of it's charm. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cloudbreaker's signature Hide all signatures Bad Business means Good Art Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kokeboka Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) I've done some digging around for good brands of eurorack modules, here are a few I quite liked: Harvestman Pittsburgh Modular Analogue Systems - I think jonny greenwood of radiohead has a monster system with their modules Circuit Abbey Analogue Solutions- they have some interesting eurorack modules, and their semi-modulars look awesome (particularly Tereshkova) Livewire Intellijel Future Sound Systems - the guy behind FSS is a watmmer, he's friendly and helpful Cwejman - if you've got mad money to spend, they're as high quality as it gets The first specialized webstore I'd go to browse and check prices for modules and semi-modules in Euroland would be schneidersladen. On a side note, I saw an ad a couple of days ago from someone selling a Korg MS-20 for €1,200 - not a lot of money for a classic semi-modular synth. Its little brother the MS-10 is supposed to be a gem in the used synth market, I've never seen anyone selling one but I've read it can go for under €1,000. Edited October 16, 2012 by kokeboka Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1890932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diao Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 My advice would be to buy the modules that you definitely want, as opposed too buying similar ones because they are cheaper or more readily available. You will almost always end up getting rid of modules you bought as 'stand-ins' for the real deal later. I sold a bunch of my Cwejman modules thinking I could spread the money they were worth out over quite a few more modules only to end up buying them back at much higher prices than I sold them for. Livewire is fantastic as well, everyone should have an AFG! But if I were you, I would start by getting an Envelope Generator to pair with your Dark Energy to start out. Just do some digging around the internet to read up on the various modules that are out. It probably seems like a nightmare when starting out these days, there are sooooo many modules to choose from anymore, its amazing! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1891034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yanG Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 On 10/15/2012 at 9:36 PM, sweepstakes said: This thing looks cool but it seems like it doesn't have that many connections to F with. Enough to have fun, though, for sure. Are you using it with other modules? Not yet, but I guess when my bank account gets better again after a coupla months I will. I might as well prototype fun stuff ith my Arduino, I've got many light sensors :) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1891080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 if I'm honest, I never really rated my dark energy that much. I found it quite inharmonic and it didn't sit well in my mixes. it's also only the most basic of systems in terms of patching and is not really a modular synth (only barely makes it into the semi modular category). still it was fun for a bit I guess... sold it earlier this year though, not missing it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1891099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 On 10/16/2012 at 2:11 AM, kokeboka said: …the MS-10 is supposed to be a gem in the used synth market, I've never seen anyone selling one but I've read it can go for under €1,000. After that Sean Booth interview with Fizzarum someone posted over the weekend, I looked at MS-10 prices on eBay and they seemed to go for around 700 USD. I'm a total noob when it comes to analog, but if I wanted something semi-modular and had the money, that's probably where I'd start. On 10/16/2012 at 2:28 PM, BCM said: if I'm honest, I never really rated my dark energy that much. I found it quite inharmonic and it didn't sit well in my mixes. it's also only the most basic of systems in terms of patching and is not really a modular synth (only barely makes it into the semi modular category). still it was fun for a bit I guess... sold it earlier this year though, not missing it. This is very interesting coming from a guy who rocks MFB synths now! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1891116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 i've had the MFB from way before i got the Dark Energy. it does say a lot that i didn't sell the MFB though... to my ears it's more "musical" - it works much better in the tunes i make. when i used to up the fader on my Dark Energy i was always disappointed by the way it seemed to refuse to "blend in" with anything else. don't get me wrong, it's got a big sound and is certainly a lot of fun, but in practical terms i never found i could really use it. maybe it's just me i dunno... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1891236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 probably the type of music you make and the sound and character you were looking for. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1891494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I think the type of music I make would typically be perfect for the dark energy - ie analogue style braindancey stuff (you've all heard it by now surely)... I just found it too disharmonious (if that's a word lol) for my tastes. dunno, maybe my unit was faulty or something... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1891543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Bro Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Slightly off topic but I'm still trying to get my Korg Monotron Duo in a track. :( Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1892029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/16/2012 at 2:11 AM, kokeboka said: Future Sound Systems - the guy behind FSS is a watmmer, he's friendly and helpful Aww cheers boss! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1892042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 2:50 PM, BCM said: I think the type of music I make would typically be perfect for the dark energy - ie analogue style braindancey stuff (you've all heard it by now surely)... I just found it too disharmonious (if that's a word lol) for my tastes. dunno, maybe my unit was faulty or something... ya sure but I mean more specifically you probably have a certain quality that you look for, even if it's a subconscious thing. There is such a range of sounds even just in the "brain dance" category. The Virus and machine drum are also good examples. Some people love them some don't. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1892093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NZT Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Something I like to do with the DE: Start with just your basic oscillator, filter fully open etc. Then tune 1or two lfos to the audio range , lets say C3 if your in the key of C. Now you can strike notes, and crank up the pwm, filter mods so that it morphs from the simple tone to mangled. But it stays musical because youve tuned the lfos. Also, if the envelope is slow and affects the vco freq you can find a spot where the osc is raised by say a fifth. Then flick the vco freq mod on and off whenever you want to quickly transpose your sequence. Use this in conjunction with the octave switch. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1893477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Sorry for the spam, but it may be of interest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DEyoG4jnm0 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1899011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1899533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yanG Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hihi, I made this quick shit video, I was able to send MIDI arps for the first time yesterday cause I don't have a hardware sequencer and my PC was fucked, couldn't find my Windows installer... The only was I could play with it was by sending the square LFO into the gate in, or just turn the VCA on without envelope, so frustrating! Anyway, I was so excited I need to record my first filter sweep :) Pardon the shit quality! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4Qq9twY-U Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1900044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yanG Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Off another of your vid: futureimage said: This filter will turn your favourite Abba tracks into the next Merzbow LP. :) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76064-entering-the-world-of-modulars/#findComment-1900056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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