The Black Dog - The Return Ov Bleep 12"

http://www.dustscience.com/live/home/the-return-ov-bleep

https://soundcloud.com/the-black-dog/dustv036-the-black-dog-the

sounds awful

seems fine. unremarkable at its worst! which is totally black dog post spanners to me anyway.

status quo

I love the early stuff Downie did with Handley and Turner, Bytes and Spanners are classic albums, but this does sound pretty uninspiring. Personally I think it's time for Ken Downie to visit the vets and put the dog down with a lethal injection.

Right so, if we're finished pointing out that old Black Dog isn't the same band as the new Black Dog.

I like the sound of this, in bleep 4 particular. Whats the story with bleep 3? Theres no sample.

https://twitter.com/TheBlackDog/status/291661838729482240

think they have been reading this!!

Fair enough, Id probably be fairly pissed of if I released music and people kept referencing a band I was never in (Im assuming that one of the dust bros runs that twitter).

not really sure which 1 of them tweets, thought it was quite amusing though!

for the record i quite like this and like "new" black dog, is high quality techno business, though can see why fans of the earlier stuff wouldnt necessarily like the new stuff and would have thought they would have had thicker skins and not got upset by shit written on here.

  On 1/16/2013 at 10:13 PM, kirm said:

https://twitter.com/TheBlackDog/status/291661838729482240

 

think they have been reading this!!

ahah reminds me of clark being unhappy with a lot of facebook comments when iradelphic came out.

dudes, you are big musicians, you should give a f*ck about watmm and co

I don't dislike it that much. Pretty good electro, and the return of a remarkable bleep sound is something truly nice and hommage-related.

I've actually preferred this era of Black Dog (Music For Real Airports onwards) and the sound isn't really too much of a surprise if you've checked out the many mixsets that have been released over the last couple of years.

The idea that this music (at least from the samples) is stylistically new, novel, unusual and a contrast to the "same old over and over and again and again" that WATMM allegedly prefers is

so you make standard electro/techno fare that has sounded like this for what 15+ years and accuse people who don't like it of not opening up to new music? give me a break

  On 1/17/2013 at 3:29 PM, dr lopez said:

The idea that this music (at least from the samples) is stylistically new, novel, unusual and a contrast to the "same old over and over and again and again" that WATMM allegedly prefers is

 

so you make standard electro/techno fare that has sounded like this for what 15+ years and accuse people who don't like it of not opening up to new music? give me a break

i think he's bemoaning the moaning, the criticism he reads here is repetitive, that the dog were better in the old days... not the musical preference of watmm in general. i don't see any shred of pretence from them that their music is "stylistically new, novel, unusual and a contrast to the same old"... my impression is that they just make the music they want to make.

  On 1/17/2013 at 3:50 PM, keltoi said:

i think he's bemoaning the moaning, the criticism he reads here is repetitive, that the dog were better in the old days...

I specifically recall a few years ago JR enabled a temporary user account here for Ken just so he could tell some watmmer to piss off for stating this very opinion

Idk, part of me says he/they bring it upon themselves for continuing to trade under the Black Dog name instead of just calling the project something else. At the same time the current lineup makes it abundantly clear that their m.o. is pure, dark techno, so if that ain't someone's bag then he/she should just move on.

pure dark techno? this sound more like something paul oakenfold might churn out

old dog, new tricks, you cant teach. I quite like it though, but then i dont know much about their back catalogue.

We literally have to go through this every thread.

I like the music.

  On 1/17/2013 at 3:29 PM, dr lopez said:

The idea that this music (at least from the samples) is stylistically new, novel, unusual and a contrast to the "same old over and over and again and again" that WATMM allegedly prefers is

 

so you make standard electro/techno fare that has sounded like this for what 15+ years and accuse people who don't like it of not opening up to new music? give me a break

Why are you here then? You know what the music is like now, why are you here?

  On 1/17/2013 at 11:24 AM, mcbpete said:

I've actually preferred this era of Black Dog (Music For Real Airports onwards) and the sound isn't really too much of a surprise if you've checked out the many mixsets that have been released over the last couple of years.

I can appreciate both era's. But Im pretty sure most people know what tBD are up to these days.

  On 1/18/2013 at 2:02 AM, chassis said:

We literally have to go through this every thread.

 

I like the music.

 

  On 1/17/2013 at 3:29 PM, dr lopez said:

The idea that this music (at least from the samples) is stylistically new, novel, unusual and a contrast to the "same old over and over and again and again" that WATMM allegedly prefers is

 

so you make standard electro/techno fare that has sounded like this for what 15+ years and accuse people who don't like it of not opening up to new music? give me a break

Why are you here then? You know what the music is like now, why are you here?

i like the music! i said unremarkable at it's worst. I'm all for bog standard modern techno stuff, just tweeting about watmm shit is lame and unprofessional

It does seem kind of like having a bitch-fit @ WATMM just because some of us may have voiced discontent. I agree as big as tBD is, they really shouldn't give a fuck about what this community thinks. WATMM's opinion isn't that influential is it?

I personally like the new-era stuff, I know they used to be a lot more IDM back in the day, but honestly I haven't heard a lot of the older stuff (I've been meaning to hear Bytes and Spanners). For what it is, the new stuff is pretty good. Music For Real Airports is an interesting album and the Liber/Dogma era stuff is pretty solid techno. I'll probably check this out eventually.

tBD is one of my favourite band / artist since the early days on GPR. I guess I just appreciate the way KD writes and produces music, and the way tBD has been evolving for nearly 20 years. This new one makes no exception.

Personally, I appreciate that they give a shit about what is said here.

  On 1/24/2013 at 1:35 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Personally, I appreciate that they give a shit about what is said here.

I must admit that I do, too, although I'm not sure that I should. I just can't help but appreciate hearing some feedback about what is being said here from an artist or collective that I like.

[Dawning realization...] I guess I now I understand those "Wooooo!" people when the person on the stage says the name of their hometown. "He said Springfield! That's where I'm from!"

Im spinning this now, really enjoying it.

I'm totally understanding of the fact that a group like Black Dog has feelings, but if i was them i would have retweeted the lethal injection comment instead, because whether you like the music or not it was a good/funny comment.

Meh.