J3FF3R00 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Get it while it's hot... while you still can... http://dafilms.com/download/key/zTaGWLtX3w Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aserinsky Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Holy shit, thank you so much for this! Great to see an interview like this with Herzog solely dedicated to film, when I saw him live in conversation in London a few years back he sure did love to speak about everything in between (not that's a bad thing mind you). For anyone interested there's a playlist here of a few clips of that interview, as well as this clip that wasn't added to the playlist for some reason. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 In a way, the point of a masterclass by him is somewhat moot. So much about his method is so very subjective. It seems impossible to teach. Still, listening to him talking about anything is deeply fascinating. I'm about half-way through this (163 minutes!) and he's telling a lot of famous, fan-familiar stories, but it is great to hear him speak about his work with passion. He has more passion about his work than very few people can ever dream to possess. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 yeah it really is somewhat moot, still very good he's a weird guy, weirder than it seems at first I think. he's has a good sense of humor but like many artists seems oblivious to certain things also, as much as I wish not to, I have to wonder his stance on the new information regarding Kinski Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I could listen to Hertzog all day Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycase Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I could watch this a few times. There's a lot to think about here. He's fascinating. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCJ Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Cool, I turned on an App called Jaksta in my Mac's menu bar and have a file thats 938.4mb. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 On 1/17/2013 at 1:14 AM, MCJ said: Cool, I turned on an App called Jaksta in my Mac's menu bar and have a file thats 938.4mb. wuwuwuwait. You were able to rip it? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 favorite herzog? I've only seen about a third but right now I'm inclined to say: Even Dwarfs Started Small Lessons of Darkness I love Grizzly Man, Kaspar Hauser.... but when I think Herzog, I think those above two really capture the important core aspect of his approach. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 On 1/17/2013 at 12:51 AM, happycase said: I could watch this a few times. There's a lot to think about here. He's fascinating. same, I really like learning about his artistic approach. listening to this has genuinely taught me a few things about making music. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 On 1/17/2013 at 12:33 AM, vamos scorcho said: yeah it really is somewhat moot, still very good he's a weird guy, weirder than it seems at first I think. he's has a good sense of humor but like many artists seems oblivious to certain things also, as much as I wish not to, I have to wonder his stance on the new information regarding Kinski please elaborate Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 he's a pedofile and he raped two of his daughters, basically I haven't seen Aguirre but it almost seems bizarre to consider watching it now... I really believe in some level of ethics and it asks some bizarre questions about our perception of art vs reality. It's actually quite similar to the problems facing us regarding the upcoming virtual reality technology... I'll watch Aguire anyway, I personally don't think the personal life can really have anything to do with the interpretation of a film. It's just one part of the whole picture, possibly a serious part of it but not enough to say "don't watch it." Too many levels to consider. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd syside Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 this is awesome thanks Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide syd syside's signature Hide all signatures " Last law bearing means that any reformer or Prophet will be a subordinate of the Holy Prophet (saw) and no new Messenger and Prophet with a new religion, book or decree will come after him. Everything from him will be under the banner of Islam only." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) On 1/17/2013 at 4:46 AM, vamos scorcho said: favorite herzog? I've seen almost everything (with the exception of a handful of films) and the ones that come to mind are.. - Stroszek (favorite narrative, by far) - Land of silence and darkness (fave doc feature) - (fave short) I also love aguirre, nosferatu, heart of glass and all of the others. Fuck it. Dude is a genius. Edited January 17, 2013 by jefferoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm watching Stroszek again this moment, took a pause because I realized some shit and wanted to type it LOL. the thought was that both Kinski and Bruno have the same tendencies... on film they lose track of reality and beyond just acting fall into social disgrace on camera. not to get too interpretive, on second viewing it seems like Stroszek is the more intruiging outgrowth of Kaspar Hauser distinctions Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) nice one jefferoo! favourite herzog - fitzcarraldo. Edited January 17, 2013 by keltoi Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yvw! I finished it all last night. Good stuff. I kinda want to watch it again, now. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1932947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Thanks for the link. If Herzog had anything to be teached, it would be to stop doing voice-overs. I mean, in most of the cases, it gets annoying fast. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1933042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 No. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1933073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlisuite Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 On the contrary I always liked that he narrates his documentaries. It shows a lot about his approach to work. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1933075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 To me perfect documentaries have to have absolutely no point of view. It's impossible but some docs get near that. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1933097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 On 1/17/2013 at 9:43 PM, the anonymous forumite said: To me perfect documentaries have to have absolutely no point of view. It's impossible but some docs get near that. Lessons of Darkness is close to this. I think there is a small amount of narration but for the most part it's just experimental classical music / Wagner and images of Kuwait... it's actually supposed to be a "sci-fi" if I remember correctly. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1933103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Its impossible for documentaries to be 100% objective. In this inteview, Herzog talks specifically about his feelings on this issue. He says the ony real objective documentary is a security camera at a bank and that would be fucking boring to watch. Therefore, make the film entertaining. Otherwise, there is no point in making the film. I agree with him. Even the most objective of documentary films are, by nature of being made by a human, subjective. It simply cannot be avoided. He just embraces his own interference and subjectivity in someone's story. Edited January 18, 2013 by jefferoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77233-documentary-masterclass-by-werner-herzog-free-to-view-til-jan-20th/#findComment-1933163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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