syd syside Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Quote It can fly faster than the speed of sound, cannot be detected by radarand has no pilot. This is the new robotic plane that will become thenext generation of front line bombers for the British military.The drone, which is named Taranis after the Celtic god of thunder, hasbeen designed to fly intercontinental missions to attack targets and canautomatically dodge incoming missiles.The aircraft, which has cost £125 million to build, is intended to bethe first of a new generation of aeroplanes that will reduce the need torisk human lives on long, dangerous missions.It is to be flown for the first time in a series of tests over theAustralian outback in the spring in an attempt to demonstrate thetechnology to military chiefs.Currently the Royal Air Force uses Tornado GR4 bombers as its front linestrike aircraft, although the Typhoon Eurofighter is expected toreplace it in the coming years.Remote controlled drones such as Reaper are also used by the Ministry of Defence and US military to attack targets.But the Taranis is expected to provide a prototype of a new kind ofbomber that will replace piloted planes and the current drones.With a shape more similar to the US B-2 Stealth bomber, it intended tofly automatically using an on-board computer system to performmanoeuvres, avoid threats and identify targets. Only when it needs toattack a target will it seek authorisation from a human controller.Nigel Whitehead, group managing director of programmes at BAE Systems,which has been developing Taranis, said the new drone could change theway aircraft are used by the MoD in the future, which currently usesmanned planes for combat missions.He said: “I think that the Taranis programme will be used to inform theUK MoD thinking, regarding the make up for the future force mix. Ianticipate that the UK will chose to have a mix of manned and unmannedfront-line aircraft. “This decision will have a major impact on the future of the UK military.”The Taranis uses stealth technology, including a highly secretivecoating that helps it slip through radar undetected. It will be able tocarry a series of weapons on board including missiles and laser guidedbombs.The use of drones, however, has come under intense criticism from humanrights groups, who claim their use as weapons contravenes internationallaws as often innocent targets can be killed.The Reaper and Predator drones currently used by the British and USmilitary are operated by remote control using pilots based at a commandcentre.Although they fly relatively slowly, with a maximum speed of 287 milesper hour, less than half the speed of sound, their ability to perform“hunter-killer” missions or support ground troops in Afghanistan withoutrisking human pilots has seen them increasingly used.Unmanned aircraft are now being seen as a way of producing planes thatcan fly further, faster and higher than is currently possible with humanpilots, who can grow tired or blackout in manoeuvres that produce highg-forces.There are concerns, however, that as drones are made more autonomous,they will pose more of a risk if they go out of control and leavingcomputers to make life or death decisions is highly controversial.Taranis, however, will still rely on instructions from a central command centre before attacking targets.The tests on Taranis, which is powered by a Rolls-Royce Adour 951engine used on Hawk training jets, will see it flying a simulatedmission where it must automatically avoid unexpected threats such asground to air missiles and seek out potential targets.Once identified, the operators will send instructions to Taranis toattack the targets before performing a flying past to confirm the damageand then landing safely.Mr Whitehead added: “There is one demonstrator aircraft. The missionplan will be loaded onto the vehicle. The aircraft will then fly themission. Taranis will fly to the search area and sweep the area toidentify targets.“The air vehicle will be presented with unexpected “pop up” threats and its evasive response will be monitored.“Target information will be relayed to mission command and the aircraftwill hold off until given the next instruction to prosecute, send moredata or ignore the identified target. “In the event of a command to attack, this will be carried out followedby a battle damage inspection and then further interaction with commandto confirm the instruction to attack again, prosecute other targets orto come home, avoiding further pop-up threats.”A spokesman for the MoD added: “Taranis is the first of its kind in theUK. Unmanned Air Vehicles play an important role on operations, helpingto reduce the risks faced by military personnel on the front line.“Forthcoming Taranis flight trials will provide MoD and industry withfurther information about the potential capabilities of Unmanned CombatAir Systems.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9797738/British-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight.html Reveal hidden contents Bryant was one of them, and he remembers one incident very clearly when aPredator drone was circling in a figure-eight pattern in the sky aboveAfghanistan, more than 10,000 kilometers (6,250 miles) away. There was aflat-roofed house made of mud, with a shed used to hold goats in thecrosshairs, as Bryant recalls. When he received the order to fire, hepressed a button with his left hand and marked the roof with a laser.The pilot sitting next to him pressed the trigger on a joystick, causingthe drone to launch a Hellfire missile. There were 16 seconds leftuntil impact."These moments are like in slow motion," he says today. Images takenwith an infrared camera attached to the drone appeared on his monitor,transmitted by satellite, with a two-to-five-second time delay.With seven seconds left to go, there was no one to be seen on theground. Bryant could still have diverted the missile at that point. Thenit was down to three seconds. Bryant felt as if he had to count eachindividual pixel on the monitor. Suddenly a child walked around thecorner, he says.Second zero was the moment in which Bryant's digital world collided withthe real one in a village between Baghlan and Mazar-e-Sharif.Bryant saw a flash on the screen: the explosion. Parts of the buildingcollapsed. The child had disappeared. Bryant had a sick feeling in hisstomach."Did we just kill a kid?" he asked the man sitting next to him. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/pain-continues-after-war-for-american-drone-pilot-a-872726.html Edited January 27, 2013 by compson Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide syd syside's signature Hide all signatures " Last law bearing means that any reformer or Prophet will be a subordinate of the Holy Prophet (saw) and no new Messenger and Prophet with a new religion, book or decree will come after him. Everything from him will be under the banner of Islam only." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) fucking cylons frakking toasters Edited January 27, 2013 by disparaissant Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 At first i thought that was an army of garden gnomes. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 On 1/27/2013 at 5:33 AM, compson said: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycase Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Wow, it's beautiful. But I don't like the purpose it was built for. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 On 1/27/2013 at 7:04 AM, happycase said: Wow, it's beautiful. But I don't like the purpose it was built for. I don't either, but I'm not really in a position to criticize. Though I'm not personally responsible for child-killing drones, somebody in our gub'ment is. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'm sure you would score critical hits if you hit that red triangle. What's the amount of health points this thing got, btw? I'm deciding wether I'd use my sniper rifle or my rocket launcher. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 let's see some xband polars Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Warrior Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Mind boggling waste of cash, considering the MoD cut 5000 jobs last week to address their deficit. Will it be able to take off from and land on our new aircraft carriers?....I'd wager not. Makes me sick thinking of the amount of money successive governments have let the MoD piss away on disastrously managed willy-waving tech projects. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 "Will it be able to take off from and land on our new aircraft carriers?" "hasbeen designed to fly intercontinental missions to attack targets" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 "waste of cash,", "Will it be able to take off from and land on our new aircraft carriers?" you think the strengthening of the structural components (for carrier launch/landing), and addressing LO skin fabrication to be less corrosive in a sea-going environment is going to come cheap? have your carriers been designed from conception for the handling and logistics to support this new platform? has your country's doctrine or CONOPS been updated to reflect the sea-going use of this platform? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lucy Faringold Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 On 1/27/2013 at 4:22 PM, elusive4 said: "waste of cash,", "Will it be able to take off from and land on our new aircraft carriers?" you think the strengthening of the structural components (for carrier launch/landing), and addressing LO skin fabrication to be less corrosive in a sea-going environment is going to come cheap? have your carriers been designed from conception for the handling and logistics to support this new platform? has your country's doctrine or CONOPS been updated to reflect the sea-going use of this platform? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantk Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 the picture of the drone reminds me of Ufabulum Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sergeantk's signature Hide all signatures My music (zanderone) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 i've worked at BAE systems. scary place. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 On 1/27/2013 at 3:59 PM, Amen Warrior said: Mind boggling waste of cash, considering the MoD cut 5000 jobs last week to address their deficit. Will it be able to take off from and land on our new aircraft carriers?....I'd wager not. Makes me sick thinking of the amount of money successive governments have let the MoD piss away on disastrously managed willy-waving tech projects. Seems like our DoD is following a similar trend. The F-22 Raptor fighter jets for example each have a $150M price tag (over 95M quid) on them but have never seen use in combat. Seems like the equivalent of spending loads on protein shakes for body building and flexing one's muscles, but in the end is basically an expensive show of strength. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 yet another way to depersonalize the people we're killing. disgusting. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) I wonder if these drones will attack random middle easter cities or specific targets where the enemy lives (like a cave) I don't know anything about warfare but every time i read of a drone attack in a populated city i wonder if it was necessary to attack that city. Are the "enemy" hiding amongst a populated area of innocent people, if so aren't better alternatives to kill the "enemy" (like a 10 man team or something to kill specific individuals) Again i'm ignorant and don't know anything about warfare but how necessary/productive are random city bombings, is the death of innocent people worth the destruction of whatever terrorist they wanted to kill? i mean its not like "we" are fighting a national army, its just a bunch of guys. Are they even trying to justify or nobody gives a shit? Edited January 27, 2013 by YO303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Quote I wonder if these drones will attack random middle easter cities or specific targets where the enemy lives (like a cave) if so aren't better alternatives to kill the "enemy" (like a 10 man team or something to kill specific individuals) how is it better from nationalist pov ? "to endanger our boys" versus "to risk a few civies from some shitfuckstan" .. Edited January 27, 2013 by eugene Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Its sad that it has come the a point where we have to decide who live's should be more at risk. Your post killed/answered my question really. I'll get back to my hippie farm. Edited January 27, 2013 by YO303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) On 1/27/2013 at 9:33 PM, YO303 said: I wonder if these drones will attack random middle easter cities or specific targets where the enemy lives (like a cave) I don't know anything about warfare but every time i read of a drone attack in a populated city i wonder if it was necessary to attack that city. Are the "enemy" hiding amongst a populated area of innocent people, if so aren't better alternatives to kill the "enemy" (like a 10 man team or something to kill specific individuals) Again i'm ignorant and don't know anything about warfare but how necessary/productive are random city bombings, is the death of innocent people worth the destruction of whatever terrorist they wanted to kill? i mean its not like "we" are fighting a national army, its just a bunch of guys. Are they even trying to justify or nobody gives a shit? bad people who care only about money and power.. edit yeah you can get away with more if white people aren't dying too hmm are you going to give me shit for saying "bad" people? also, have you ever seen The Cube? there's a bit of that going on too. people who are killed by drones are basically in the cube. (hmm that's total bollocks) but mostly just people who want to make money, and a few people who have long term plans for the human race (and also want money). Edited January 27, 2013 by tauboo Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 On 1/27/2013 at 8:03 PM, ambermonk said: On 1/27/2013 at 3:59 PM, Amen Warrior said: Mind boggling waste of cash, considering the MoD cut 5000 jobs last week to address their deficit. Will it be able to take off from and land on our new aircraft carriers?....I'd wager not. Makes me sick thinking of the amount of money successive governments have let the MoD piss away on disastrously managed willy-waving tech projects. Seems like our DoD is following a similar trend. The F-22 Raptor fighter jets for example each have a $150M price tag (over 95M quid) on them but have never seen use in combat. Seems like the equivalent of spending loads on protein shakes for body building and flexing one's muscles, but in the end is basically an expensive show of strength. how many years was it that the f-15 was operational before USAF used it in operational combat? and aircraft procurement is a highly complex arena; i would not dumb it down to "price tags". Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) On 1/27/2013 at 9:48 PM, tauboo said: On 1/27/2013 at 9:33 PM, YO303 said: I wonder if these drones will attack random middle easter cities or specific targets where the enemy lives (like a cave) I don't know anything about warfare but every time i read of a drone attack in a populated city i wonder if it was necessary to attack that city. Are the "enemy" hiding amongst a populated area of innocent people, if so aren't better alternatives to kill the "enemy" (like a 10 man team or something to kill specific individuals) Again i'm ignorant and don't know anything about warfare but how necessary/productive are random city bombings, is the death of innocent people worth the destruction of whatever terrorist they wanted to kill? i mean its not like "we" are fighting a national army, its just a bunch of guys. Are they even trying to justify or nobody gives a shit? bad people who care only about money and power.. edit yeah you can get away with more if white people aren't dying too hmm are you going to give me shit for saying "bad" people? Its funny because white rich people who sopport the war would just look at my post and call me a naive hippie cunt. I think the discussion is worth having but i often forgot those who make the decisions are either psychopaths or brainwashed people who are well-meaning but they fail to see the humanitarian side of things because the years of nationalist propaganda has dehumanized the other side. or maybe they are right, im just being a naive hippie cunt. Edited January 27, 2013 by YO303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77390-british-stealth-drone-to-undergo-first-test-flight/#findComment-1939555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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