Redruth Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) tolstoy was quite outspoken and angered many with his words of wisdom against government, warfare, money, and the church. he was against the church, yet his beliefs were centered around the true meaning of what the church was (is) trying to hide and control (manipulate), use for power and control over humanity instead of goodwill for all humanity. leo tolstoy was an eloquent, revolutionary with many brilliant things to say. "Money is a new form of slavery, distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that there is no human relation between master and slave." "Slavery is taking the fruit of another's labor by force, whether the force is based on ownership of the slave or the money he needs to live." "In our day the feeling of patriotism is an unnatural, irrational, and harmful feeling, and a cause of a great part of the ills from which mankind is suffering; and ... consequently, this feeling should not be cultivated, as is now being done, but should, on the contrary, be suppressed and eradicated by all means available to rational men." "Patriotism in its simplest, clearest, and most undoubted meaning is for rulers nothing else but a means of realizing their ambitions and venal ends; for the governed it is a renouncing of human dignity, intelligence, and conscience, and a slavish submission to the rulers. Wherever patriotism is championed, it is preached invariably in that shape. Patriotism is slavery." "You'd think it would be clear to men who can reason that violence breeds violence & that the only escape from it is to not take part in it." - Leo Tolstoy Edited February 19, 2013 by Redruth Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dese manz hatin Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 troon did you know that the original title of "war and peace" was actually "war, what is it good for"? doesn't sound all that "genius", init. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frankie5fingers Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 On 2/19/2013 at 7:43 PM, dese manz hatin said: troon did you know that the original title of "war and peace" was actually "war, what is it good for"? FLOL Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roksen Creek Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 In my humble opinion, the greatest writer of them all. I'm not really bothered about his personal life or beliefs. I know he was quite the gambler. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 On 2/19/2013 at 7:41 PM, Redruth said: "I raise you all in, bitch!" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide spratters's signature Hide all signatures Jet fuel can't melt dank memes Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roksen Creek Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 He also admitted to cheating. Don't trust that face. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 i think he's pretty well understood. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isaki Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 never change your avatar, zaphod. it goes with everything you write Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 He is awesome, but Dostoevsky pwns him Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 On 2/19/2013 at 7:41 PM, Redruth said: tolstoy was quite outspoken and angered many with his words of wisdom against government, warfare, money, and the church. he was against the church, yet his beliefs were centered around the true meaning of what the church was (is) trying to hide and control (manipulate), use for power and control over humanity instead of goodwill for all humanity. leo tolstoy was an eloquent, revolutionary with many brilliant things to say. "Money is a new form of slavery, distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that there is no human relation between master and slave." "Slavery is taking the fruit of another's labor by force, whether the force is based on ownership of the slave or the money he needs to live." "In our day the feeling of patriotism is an unnatural, irrational, and harmful feeling, and a cause of a great part of the ills from which mankind is suffering; and ... consequently, this feeling should not be cultivated, as is now being done, but should, on the contrary, be suppressed and eradicated by all means available to rational men." "Patriotism in its simplest, clearest, and most undoubted meaning is for rulers nothing else but a means of realizing their ambitions and venal ends; for the governed it is a renouncing of human dignity, intelligence, and conscience, and a slavish submission to the rulers. Wherever patriotism is championed, it is preached invariably in that shape. Patriotism is slavery." "You'd think it would be clear to men who can reason that violence breeds violence & that the only escape from it is to not take part in it." - Leo Tolstoy and then he became a giant shitty christian and abandoned his family for the woods. whatta cunt Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 "After drinking the icy water, the horse sighed, moving his wet, firm lips, from the whiskers of which transparent drops dripped into the trough, and stood still as if in thought; then suddenly he gave a loud snort." - Tolstoy. free .pdf of his "What is Art": http://archive.org/details/whatisart00tolsuoft Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Wow I had no idea he wrote in English Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Tolstoy was a brilliant man. If you're interested in his late politics (or the idea of Christian anarchism in general) then you need to read The Kingdom of God is Within You. It's fascinating! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 On 2/19/2013 at 7:47 PM, Roksen Creek said: In my humble opinion, the greatest writer of them all. I'm not really bothered about his personal life or beliefs. I know he was quite the gambler. On 2/19/2013 at 8:03 PM, Roksen Creek said: He also admitted to cheating. Don't trust that face. it is only when we lose our genuine wanting for change that we truly fall and even then, there is always the chance that we will eventually regain proper perspective and root out our folly Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77741-leo-tolstoy-misunderstood-genius/#findComment-1955939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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