kiya Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) Has anybody talked about how the artwork is based off John Conway's Game of Life and Life Patterns? It's basically Autechre going even further into the idea of regenerative music, but this time giving the hint that its more human than what they played with in the past. Edited March 12, 2013 by kiya Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kiya's signature Hide all signatures Self Edge> www.selfedge.comAnti-Yo> www.anti-yo.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 On 3/12/2013 at 5:25 PM, kiya said: Has anybody talked about how the artwork is based off John Conway's Game of Life and Life Patterns? "no" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1967914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 On 12/14/2012 at 9:45 PM, Miblo said: Regarding Conway's Game of Life, the initial Exai population of 53 cells lives for 666 generations before settling at a population of 98, with: 12 blocks, 2 boats, 1 ship, 1 pond, 1 hive, 5 blinkers and 1 glider escaping north-west. 1355516967_exaigol-1024x1696.png Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1967973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Manager Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 On 3/12/2013 at 5:25 PM, kiya said: It's basically Autechre going even further into the idea of regenerative music, but this time giving the hint that its more human than what they played with in the past. so, just to make sure i'm clear on this... as long as i'm always listening to exai, i can never die? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 On 3/12/2013 at 10:25 PM, Ron Manager said: On 3/12/2013 at 5:25 PM, kiya said: It's basically Autechre going even further into the idea of regenerative music, but this time giving the hint that its more human than what they played with in the past. so, just to make sure i'm clear on this... as long as i'm always listening to exai, i can never die? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 isn't it tdr who comes up with those things in stead of ae? maybe ae don't even know, man Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleep Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Interesting, I just read an interview in which ae talked about using cellular automaton in their patch Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiya Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 So this hasn't been brought up in any of the 400 pages of talk about Exai besides here?It's obviously straight off John Conway's idea. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kiya's signature Hide all signatures Self Edge> www.selfedge.comAnti-Yo> www.anti-yo.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dylanmcknd Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) That was really fucking interesting. Who knows if Exai artwork was based on it though. Edited March 13, 2013 by dylanmcknd Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjatron Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I have used this instrument in Reaktor before. It follows the game of life to create generative and evolving sounds. It's very fun to watch it just run :D Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blos Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 On 3/13/2013 at 2:33 AM, kiya said: So this hasn't been brought up in any of the 400 pages of talk about Exai besides here? It's obviously straight off John Conway's idea. It popped up maybe 40 pages into the original Exai thread - certainly one of the early things that came to mind when I saw the artwork. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 On 3/13/2013 at 5:00 AM, Maxwell said: I have used this instrument in Reaktor before. It follows the game of life to create generative and evolving sounds. It's very fun to watch it just run :D i played with this a bit on the reaktor trial, it just seems too easy to make interesting generative beats. i couldn't really control explicitly what was happening, maybe i just didn't spend enough time at it though? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 On 3/13/2013 at 5:00 AM, Maxwell said: I have used this instrument in Reaktor before. It follows the game of life to create generative and evolving sounds. It's very fun to watch it just run :D 0:20-0:25 is almost exactly the same as some drums used in the Portal 2 soundtrack. It's certainly exactly the same sounds, the pattern is slightly different. Ergo, Mike Morasky must've used this for drums on the soundtrack Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-1968378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skytree Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Interesting to note that the Game of Life grid represented by the Exai cover is 11 x 11, and also reaches a state of equilibrium after 376 generations that results in a population of 12, the next album number, in a series of three stable squares. (Triple album omg.)If you don't have Reaktor but want something similar for free, the GlitchSequencer is a pretty solid Game-of-Life-based sequencing tool that outputs raw MIDI for hardware control, etc: http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/videos.php Edited April 4, 2015 by skytree Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
misc Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 On 4/2/2015 at 4:51 PM, skytree said: (Triple album omg.) yes pls Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreOceans Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I thought it was binary, the sum of each row's binary number being the (original) release date. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide WeAreOceans's signature Hide all signatures On 4/10/2019 at 12:26 PM, chenGOD said: Stoked to watch OA II. The movement thing never bothered me, anyone familiar with Druidic studies will recognize the importance of movement to get to higher planes. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skytree Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 On 4/2/2015 at 7:08 PM, WeAreOceans said: I thought it was binary, the sum of each row's binary number being the (original) release date. If they managed to do both with one configuration, that would be an immensely daunting logic problem. So I wouldn't be surprised. It would be cool to see a breakdown/explanation of your observation, because it is definitely an equilibrating Conway pattern. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
misc Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) On 4/2/2015 at 11:23 PM, skytree said: On 4/2/2015 at 7:08 PM, WeAreOceans said: I thought it was binary, the sum of each row's binary number being the (original) release date. If they managed to do both with one configuration, that would be an immensely daunting logic problem. So I wouldn't be surprised. It would be cool to see a breakdown/explanation of your observation, because it is definitely an equilibrating Conway pattern. ok so maybe this has already been said or is really obvious but i just thought, do you think this could be where the title Confield came from? Because the area over which the cells move is called the field, so it's a Conway field....a Confield Edited April 3, 2015 by misc Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skytree Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 On 4/3/2015 at 12:08 AM, misc said: On 4/2/2015 at 11:23 PM, skytree said: On 4/2/2015 at 7:08 PM, WeAreOceans said: I thought it was binary, the sum of each row's binary number being the (original) release date. If they managed to do both with one configuration, that would be an immensely daunting logic problem. So I wouldn't be surprised. It would be cool to see a breakdown/explanation of your observation, because it is definitely an equilibrating Conway pattern. ok so maybe this has already been said or is really obvious but i just thought, do you think this could be where the title Confield came from? Because the area over which the cells move is called the field, so it's a Conway field....a Confield This is a nifty hypothesis. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
misc Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 On 4/3/2015 at 12:23 AM, skytree said: On 4/3/2015 at 12:08 AM, misc said: On 4/2/2015 at 11:23 PM, skytree said: On 4/2/2015 at 7:08 PM, WeAreOceans said: I thought it was binary, the sum of each row's binary number being the (original) release date. If they managed to do both with one configuration, that would be an immensely daunting logic problem. So I wouldn't be surprised. It would be cool to see a breakdown/explanation of your observation, because it is definitely an equilibrating Conway pattern. ok so maybe this has already been said or is really obvious but i just thought, do you think this could be where the title Confield came from? Because the area over which the cells move is called the field, so it's a Conway field....a Confield This is a nifty hypothesis. and i'm pretty sure i remember them saying somewhere that a lot of confield was generative, with them setting up parameters and then letting the sound evolve from a starting point, which is basically conways game of life hope i'm not misquoting there but i'm pretty sure it was something along those lines Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreOceans Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 On 4/2/2015 at 11:23 PM, skytree said: On 4/2/2015 at 7:08 PM, WeAreOceans said: I thought it was binary, the sum of each row's binary number being the (original) release date. If they managed to do both with one configuration, that would be an immensely daunting logic problem. So I wouldn't be surprised. It would be cool to see a breakdown/explanation of your observation, because it is definitely an equilibrating Conway pattern. Not my observation, just a link/suggestion I saw floating around the net: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oKvRJqTTx7q5XD4aaqsNrfygPadTFrskEGmMZOgOEVs/edit?pli=1 It's a little tenuous, but Exai was originally down to be released earliest March 4th 2013: http://warp.net/news/exai/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide WeAreOceans's signature Hide all signatures On 4/10/2019 at 12:26 PM, chenGOD said: Stoked to watch OA II. The movement thing never bothered me, anyone familiar with Druidic studies will recognize the importance of movement to get to higher planes. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 ... so, suddenly, all my (pathetic) digressions on the perception of life as an evolving super-individual, linked to Autechre, I wrote in the "autistic media" tread, find a mathematical correspondence. If before I could have doubts, it is now clear: Ae are the musical dimension of the monolith. Yes! It was Confield... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 guys, hate to be a party pooper, but it's just a cool tDR typography exercise Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skytree Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 On 4/3/2015 at 3:52 AM, modey said: guys, hate to be a party pooper, but it's just a cool tDR typography exercise Personally I'd be really surprised if they haven't ever used Game of Life patterns to generate output. There's just a certain feel to it if you're familiar with triggering synths and such with them, and it's not that uncommon of a thing. But hey, you could be right. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skytree Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 ...did anyone flat out ask them during the q&a? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78026-autechre-exai-cover-art-life-pattern/#findComment-2309666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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