From one source all things depend

I know BOC have stated that they are anything but religious, spiritual only in the sense of how their art touches others or something ...but does that play into the message (if any) in this song? Being a Roman Catholic, I can resonate with what I would like to take out it, but I fear it may be based in my own naivety- considering their spoken stance. Can it be about the innocence of children, maybe? It obviously does not match with the rest of Geogaddi's occult-ish vibe (which can also be viewed as facetious though), so I'm a bit

Anyone ever thought/cared about this?

being a cynical bastard who thinks religions are pretty worthless i think they just take whatever is necessary to complete their vision without looking too much into the general meaning.

Pretty cynical myself so I'd say that makes the most sense. After all, they are just 2 men who make good music. I would still find an elaboration of their 'spiritual' views interesting though.

It's a nice little tune, I think it's more of a message of how those little minds are easily manipulated by religion and religious values... Could be reading to deep into stuff tough, wathever.

BoC has alot of shades, alot of gears

they could've put some sinister MHTRTC synths underneath the children's voices

but they chose serene optimistic ones

to me it is the sound of indoctrination

but it's not all dark and ugly

there is comfort in the cult

there is bliss

and it smiles upon you like warm sunlight

/bocwank

A bit on the same page as MIXL2 and Limpy...

Reminds me of this:

I have no idea what their specific beliefs and perspectives are on religion and spirituality are and honestly I doubt they have "specific" concepts the believe at all. That tune actually has prayers I myself was raised with, which when I think about in retrospect are a bit baffling to me. Christianity is a diverse religion with a plethora of nuances and perspectives. Personally I'm spiritual but irreligious - I find religion as a source for a lot of beautiful art and music and kindness in society but the more organized and political it gets the more I can't help but utterly reject it and it's ethos. Children are not cynical and for the most part they are very imaginative and curious and positive in their outlook - the samples in the song reflect that.

I did wonder the same thing about why they chose uplifting instead of sinister background... but that makes it a bit sinister in itself almost. I guess that just as the non/anti-religious folk won't necessarily be looking deep for a divinely inspired meaning, brainwashing won't be the first word that comes to mind for me. Japan was probably even more wtf

I find it kind of inspiring and uplifting because it's children speaking, it's not creepy or "ironic" in any brainwashing sense to me in that song. For that there are plenty of other examples. It's thought-provoking though. There are people who raise their children as atheists as well, and there are teenagers and young adults that often make dramatic changes in their beliefs regardless of their upbringing and background. Hearing children talk about god reflects how much humans think and speculate and imagine without being indoctrinated or pressured into specific perspectives and beliefs.

  On 4/26/2013 at 6:40 PM, joshuatx said:

I find it kind of inspiring and uplifting because it's children speaking, it's not creepy or "ironic" in any brainwashing sense to me in that song. For that there are plenty of other examples. It's thought-provoking though. There are people who raise their children as atheists as well, and there are teenagers and young adults that often make dramatic changes in their beliefs regardless of their upbringing and background. Hearing children talk about god reflects how much humans think and speculate and imagine without being indoctrinated or pressured into specific perspectives and beliefs.

i think teaching children the Bible is kinda horrifying

and nothing at all like raising 'atheist' children (assuming we are using the definition of 'atheism' that means simply lack of theism)

on paper I think religion is innocuous enough

but when the seed of the Bible is planted early

and becomes their foundation for understanding the world/universe around them

what often happens is a child grows up to reject anything that contradicts the Bible

and this is why some grown adults think that Earth is 6,000 years old

  On 4/26/2013 at 6:52 PM, LimpyLoo said:

and this is why some grown adults think that Earth is 6,000 years old

not as bad as the people who think the world is 2013 years old

lol

yeah I think it's about the cuteness of childhood naivete, the way their fresh brains and struggling to logically envision the abstract concept of god.

we can all be said to be children when it comes to our ability to rationalize the unknowable.

So I think one thing it's saying is that all formalized religion is about as ridiculous as kids trying to explain where god lives and what he looks like.

I do think it is a spiritual track, not a cynical one though.

I think the inspiration for the track was to maximise profit in Japan.

The song was clearly an initiative to convert Japan to christianity