ice cube

Hip hop was the catalyst that metmorphorsed me into a musiopath but by 1989/90 I'd had enough of it and was well into pastures new (I presume I was leaving rap music as the masses descended), in otherwords Seasons in the Abyss and thrash metal, Sabbath and Floyd and The Doors etc.

So tell me about Ice Cube and his records. I remember when I was travelling in Oz, loads of time Ice Cube would be played, it sounded pretty good, though there's so many times I can here the lyric 'nigger' before getting bored...Even so give me a guide to his best records.

I know I have everything at the touch of the button but watmm you're job here is to let me navigate the shortcuts.

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every album until lethal injection is just a classic.

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^^wow. can't believe predator was 21 years ago...

AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted is sick, most because of The Bomb Squad's beats. The lyrics get a little too much tough guy shit for me though, and the use of "niggurh" is a little too extensive. I'm not easily offended and I don't really care about it, but that shit just gets kind of tiring to listen to after a while.

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Was a fan up until West Side Connection with Mac 10. After that I didn't take him seriously anymore because of his movies watering him down. But I still love the classics.

This + a 12-pack of coors light should set you straight

don't forget the lench mob!

I heard this Macklemore guy is pretty good and I don't think he ever says "niggers".

  On 6/17/2013 at 9:34 PM, Bob Dobalina said:

 

This + a 12-pack of coors light should set you straight

I think this is the most ridiculous case of someone selling out

I have conflicting feelings about Ice Cube as well as N.W.A. as a whole. Undeniably important to hip-hop and some songs that are impossible not to like, but I feel they're overrated.

Couple reasons.

1. Overt racism toward Koreans and Korean Americans. While is a legitimate context to this: the tension between Korean-Americans and African-Americans in L.A. particularly after a young black girl named Latasha_Harlins was shot and killed in 1991 and the Korean store-owner was acquitted. Ice Cube recorded this song in anger, and it's quite fucking hateful toward Asians in general. Keep in mind this was released the year before the 1992 Race Riots.

http://youtu.be/wUJ1xaEefTc

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Yo yo, check it out

So don't follow me, up and down your market

Or your little chop suey ass'll be a target

of the nationwide boycott

Juice with the people, that's what the boy got

So pay respect to the black fist

or we'll burn your store, right down to a crisp

And then we'll see ya!

Cause you can't turn the ghetto - into Black Korea

 

Anyone familiar with the 92' Riots knows that one of the flashpoints was Koreatown, a primary target of looters and arsonists. Worsening the already simmering conflict between the Korean and Black community, the LAPD literally let the Korean community fend for itself, prompting stormowners to barricade building and arm themselves with handguns and rifles and in many cases literally shot at anyone who came by. I'm not blaming Ice Cube of course, and I'm aware that there was racism toward Blacks from Koreans as well, but I don't think it excuses the song's lyrics.

This annoys me mostly because Ice Cube has been heralded for his lyricism, which is arguably controversial and incendiary solely for the purpose of selling records. The fact that he's a producer and "actor" in Hollywood creates this false image of him being a multi-talented persona. He's a really decent rapper with a good agent and nothing more. Despite his misogynistic and racist lyrics that have never clearly been established as purely artistic, he "produced" this incredibly shallow reality show about people "switching races" in some social experiment. White family turns black, black family turns white. I had a friend who took a university class about "Race In The Media" and his lecturer screened it as a "though-provoking" series (she was a grad student who actually did such a poor job teaching she was let go). Watch 10 minutes of it and you'll think it's a parody show.

2. NWA gripe: "Fuck Tha Police" was "inspired" by an incident in which Dr. Dre was arrested for...drive-by shooting bystanders with paintball guns. Yes you read that right. Not for being pulled over for no reason, or hassled in public for no reason, or being arrested in an excessive manner. VH1 interviewed him years ago, and I can't find the video but people have cited it on multiple pages, and this is what he said this:

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"It was me and Eazy riding around. He had this paintball gun, and he was shooting people at bus stops. The cops caught us and we were face down on the freeway with guns pointed at us. We thought it was bullshit. So we went to the studio and created the song. So we said fuck the police cuz cops are fuckin pigs who think everything's a god damn crime!"

 

Oh yeah, or maybe YOU WERE ARRESTED FOR SHOOTING RANDOM PEOPLE WITH A PAINTBALL GUN IN A CRIME RIDDEN NEIGHBORHOOD!? When he was telling the story on tv I literally shouted "fucking really?" They would of been tackled and arrested in a white suburban neighborhood too for fuck's sake! I still love that song and still think NWA was an important group, but they heralded a bit too much and given too much credit as a social-political group when the reality is they made a very edgy and banging album at the right time. Ice Cube was a college student when he met Dre and the group was a successful electro-oriented hip-hop group when they started. I dunno, Give me Public Enemy any other day.

I thought this was the guy from law and order, then I remembered that's Ice T

what'd Ice T do

  On 6/19/2013 at 1:52 AM, Ragnar said:

I thought this was the guy from law and order, then I remembered that's Ice T

 

what'd Ice T do

Yeah...they are quite different looking dudes too.

Well for one he became a better actor than Ice Cube. His most controversial song was "Cop Killer" which is up there with "Fuck Da Police" in notoriety. Unlike Ice Cube or NWA though he made the rounds on talkshows since he was targeted by Tipper Gore and the PMRC.

Ice T, along with Schoolly D in Philly, is a proto-gangsta rap figure and released what many consider the first gangsta rap song "6 In the Mornin'" and he was very relevant the same time as N.W.A.

A key difference between Ice Cube and Ice T, despite being both controversial and noted West Coast rappers, was that Ice T actively engaged and explained his lyrical motivations. He also never affiliated himself clearly with any particular gangs and never made himself an explicitly "west coast" rapper. That's my gripe with Ice Cube - I don't think there's as much thought or intelligence behind his words. Anyway, Ice-T peaked in 91-92 imo - I think everything since O.G. Original Gangster has been iffy at best. And I really like him personally, he's quite likable and witty.

I remember how Ice-T was dropped by Warner/Sire after Body Count's Cop Killer, because they we're cowards

and got pressure from the Tipper Gore Camp. He had "Home Invasion" ready to drop and Jello Biafra was the

only guy with the Guts to release it.

Good Times...

lol

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Thanks for your replies watmm

  On 6/19/2013 at 9:58 AM, triachus said:

 

 

 

and lol at this

  On 6/19/2013 at 11:30 AM, beerwolf said:

 

  On 6/19/2013 at 9:58 AM, triachus said:

 

 

 

 

and lol at this

 

http://youtu.be/DKJsSPATDLY

^I can't not laugh at 3:10

  On 6/18/2013 at 5:38 AM, joshuatx said:

 

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"It was me and Eazy riding around. He had this paintball gun, and he was shooting people at bus stops. The cops caught us and we were face down on the freeway with guns pointed at us. We thought it was bullshit. So we went to the studio and created the song. So we said fuck the police cuz cops are fuckin pigs who think everything's a god damn crime!"

 

 

Oh yeah, or maybe YOU WERE ARRESTED FOR SHOOTING RANDOM PEOPLE WITH A PAINTBALL GUN IN A CRIME RIDDEN NEIGHBORHOOD!? When he was telling the story on tv I literally shouted "fucking really?" They would of been tackled and arrested in a white suburban neighborhood too for fuck's sake! I still love that song and still think NWA was an important group, but they heralded a bit too much and given too much credit as a social-political group when the reality is they made a very edgy and banging album at the right time. Ice Cube was a college student when he met Dre and the group was a successful electro-oriented hip-hop group when they started. I dunno, Give me Public Enemy any other day.

Wow, if that was their inspiration to get mad at the police it seems like they're really phony. This sounds like something highschoolers would do after getting out of school at 3:00

There is no questioning ice-cubes lyricism. He wrote all the lyrics for albums by NWA, and Easy-E, which leaves no room for argument. Easy was never a rapper, they had to record his songs one line at a time.