keltoi Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 my work pc dies every time i open photoshop... blue screen comes up with various warnings, mostly "BAD POOL HEADER". it started happening about 1 month ago and only happens with Pshop. it's been suggested that there's an issue with memory but as far as diagnostic check suggests eveything is working ok. i've cleared temp files, defragged and disk clean-upped. it's a 2 yr old HP touchsmart610 with 2gigs RAM. any ideas what could be going wrong before i get some over-priced IT guy in? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 is your PS legit? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide patternoverlap's signature Hide all signatures New Prints Available Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Edit Hide Delete Posted August 7, 2013 Update your drivers. Primarily your GPU and Chipset drivers. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 On 8/7/2013 at 3:28 PM, patternoverlap said: is your PS legit? yup. On 8/7/2013 at 3:49 PM, Ego said: Update your drivers. Primarily your GPU and Chipset drivers. thanks, i'll try that. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 What happened about a month ago in terms of software installation/driver changes? Maybe run a system restore back to when all was well. Edit - have you tried just reinstalling it? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 sounds like a memory or hard drive error :( Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 On 8/7/2013 at 4:05 PM, mcbpete said: What happened about a month ago in terms of software installation/driver changes? Maybe run a system restore back to when all was well. Edit - have you tried just reinstalling it? first BSOD happened after i loaded old cad software to look at some archived drawings. i un-installed this software, but it kept happening afterwards. i've done a system restore to the day before loading the cad software, i've uninstalled/reinstalled pshop and i've ran anti-virus and malware checks. On 8/7/2013 at 4:05 PM, skibby said: sounds like a memory or hard drive error :( like irrepairable error? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 On 8/7/2013 at 4:05 PM, skibby said: sounds like a memory or hard drive error :( i agree, and i know this is tough but it's definitiley time to format the floppy drive. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 You can check for faulty ram with this - http://www.memtest86.com/ And your hard drive by running a surface scan. Best way to do that is Start -> Run -> Cmd and on the command prompt type: chkdsk C: /f /r It'll ask you if you want to run a scan on restart so just type 'y' and reboot. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 ram seems ok. 4gig rather than 2 as i said before. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 On 8/7/2013 at 4:34 PM, mcbpete said: And your hard drive by running a surface scan. Best way to do that is Start -> Run -> Cmd and on the command prompt type: chkdsk C: /f /r It'll ask you if you want to run a scan on restart so just type 'y' and reboot. oh shit, i do not have permissions, have to run in "elevated mode?" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Do you have the command prompt on the start menu (might be in the Accessories program group), if so right click it and press 'Run as administrator' Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfxf Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 try: start > cmd sfc /scannow installing older software may have overwritten a system library or something - that said a system restore should have fixed it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide xfxf's signature Hide all signatures user18081971 voting site: http://user18081971.watmm.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 try rehashing your vista i/o's Reveal hidden contents but srsly, see what kind of errors (if any) are you getting in event viewer. nasty hdd errors will usually show up there even without scandisk. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Check your event viewer for any sort of disk errors. If you go to system logs and filter it so only critical errors show. You can check the application error logs too, see if they have any extra information. If windows 7 right click Computer from start menu, and select manage Expand Event Viewer on the left Expand Windows Logs Select System On the right select "Filter Current Log" Check "Error" and "Critical" Scroll down and if you see any disk or NTFS errors, more than likely you have a bad hard drive. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide goffer's signature Hide all signatures PHOTOS Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 reinstall gentoo i think its messing up Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 On 8/7/2013 at 4:26 PM, phling said: On 8/7/2013 at 4:05 PM, skibby said: sounds like a memory or hard drive error :( i agree, and i know this is tough but it's definitiley time to format the floppy drive. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 On 8/8/2013 at 1:56 AM, goffer said: Check your event viewer for any sort of disk errors. If you go to system logs and filter it so only critical errors show. You can check the application error logs too, see if they have any extra information. If windows 7 right click Computer from start menu, and select manage Expand Event Viewer on the left Expand Windows Logs Select System On the right select "Filter Current Log" Check "Error" and "Critical" Scroll down and if you see any disk or NTFS errors, more than likely you have a bad hard drive. thanks, i need this kind of idiot-proof step by step. here's a part of the log, the critical errors seem to correspond with the BSOD's and go back to June and mostly say "user-mode driver problems"... Quote Error 08/08/2013 09:25:06 BugCheck 1001 None Error 08/08/2013 09:25:06 BugCheck 1005 None Critical 08/08/2013 09:24:02 Kernel-Power 41 (63) Error 07/08/2013 17:32:30 Service Control Manager 7006 None Error 06/08/2013 17:33:35 Service Control Manager 7006 None Error 06/08/2013 17:33:24 WindowsUpdateClient 20 Windows Update Agent Error 06/08/2013 17:33:16 DistributedCOM 10010 None Error 06/08/2013 12:22:09 BugCheck 1001 None Error 06/08/2013 12:22:08 Service Control Manager 7006 None Critical 06/08/2013 12:21:33 Kernel-Power 41 (63) Critical 06/08/2013 12:17:25 DriverFrameworks-UserMode 10111 User-mode Driver problems. Critical 06/08/2013 12:17:25 DriverFrameworks-UserMode 10110 User-mode Driver problems. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 On 8/7/2013 at 5:27 PM, xf said: try: start > cmd sfc /scannow installing older software may have overwritten a system library or something - that said a system restore should have fixed it i don't have permissions to do this. maybe i'll try a system restore further back. that log goffer found for me suggests the issues go further back than i thought. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) On 8/8/2013 at 11:17 AM, keltoi said: On 8/7/2013 at 5:27 PM, xf said: try: start > cmd sfc /scannow installing older software may have overwritten a system library or something - that said a system restore should have fixed it i don't have permissions to do this. when you type in "cmd" in that search field it should give you a list of programs and files somehow related to what you typed, the first in that list should be cmd.exe, right click on it and choose "run as administrator" and then try running the sfc thing. Edited August 8, 2013 by eugene Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 On 8/8/2013 at 3:12 PM, eugene said: On 8/8/2013 at 11:17 AM, keltoi said: On 8/7/2013 at 5:27 PM, xf said: try: start > cmd sfc /scannow installing older software may have overwritten a system library or something - that said a system restore should have fixed it i don't have permissions to do this. when you type in "cmd" in that search field it should give you a list of programs and files somehow related to what you typed, the first in that list should be cmd.exe, right click on it and choose "run as administrator" and then try running the sfc thing. done... it says "found no integrity violations". Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 tbh reinstalling windows and all the needed software may take less time than finding the actual problem, you probably have a recovery partition if it's a legit hp desktop that'll streamline the process. you'll just have to back up some stuff before doing it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 really? o gaaawd. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2046910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdust Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Sorry to bump this up from the second page, but have you tried downloading the latest trial version of PS? Then you can see if its the software or your hardware. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2047977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Just reinstall Photoshop. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80038-bsod-every-time-i-open-photoshop/#findComment-2047978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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