How Would You Define The Difference Between Drug & Medicinal Herb?

there is coffee, there is green tea and then there is passion flower and there r poppy extracts for sleeping. there is chocolate and there is coca and there is cocaine

and then there is lettuce which in significant amounts is a strong sedative; it is an opiate. celery even has mood altering affects and there are countless other examples..

what than is the dividing line and is there in fact a dividing line between many of them? if there r no negative effects and there r massive energetic and nutritional effects (like with coca leaf versus cocaine), then why do we not delineate more specifically between the two, making more wide spread use of one, without demonizing it along with the other?

because society, maaaaaan

It becomes a drug when it's a threat to other industries and it's time to use the bureaucracy left over from prohibition to outlaw something else.

  On 8/18/2013 at 6:51 AM, disparaissant said:

because society, maaaaaan

Besides using the FDA definition?

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/informationondrugs/ucm079436.htm

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Drug

A drug is defined as:

A substance recognized by an official pharmacopoeia or formulary.

A substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease.

A substance (other than food) intended to affect the structure or any function of the body.

A substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a device or a component, part or accessory of a device.

Biological products are included within this definition and are generally covered by the same laws and regulations, but differences exist regarding their manufacturing processes (chemical process versus biological process.)

 

How powerful is it? Can it be patented? Can we make it seem dangerous and taboo, and then synthesize it ourselves and profit from it?

Also note

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Pharmacopoeial monographs.

The International Pharmacopoeia pro- vides international standards for the content, purity and quality of active ingredients, pharmaceutical products and excipients moving in international commerce. Each monograph must be interpreted in accordance with all the general requirements and testing methods, texts or notices pertaining to it. A product is not of pharmacopoeial quality unless it complies with all the requirements stated in the respective context. Moreover, the underlying principle of a pharma- copoeia is that pharmaceutical substances and products intended for medical use should be manufactured according to Good Manufactur- ing Practices since quality cannot be tested into a product.

The recently adopted approach to include — in newly developed monographs — alternative analytical procedures when more sophisti- cated methods are described in the monographs concerned should be maintained.

The development of monographs in the context of WHO’s disease control programmes (i.e. those on malaria, tuberculosis and AIDS) is a priority.

Monographs in The International Pharmacopoeia, together with related general methods and notices have an added value as discussed above and can also be used as references in the development of national (local) quality standards as well as for the assessment of sections on quality control in registration dossiers.

 

Independence of WHO and independent worldwide validation

Independent worldwide validation of analytical methods is very important, particularly in the context of the use of generics traded and sourced internationally. The active assistance of numerous WHO collaborating centres worldwide is therefore essential in developing international requirements and must be encouraged. The validation of newly developed analytical methods, e.g. for antiretrovirals, should be performed too. The independence of WHO in this matter is unique and of fundamental importance.

Tldr: the field of medicine is internationally a tightly regulated, well defined field.

Difference is drugs will get you 5-10

*Narration by Leslie Nielsen*

The CIA shipped tons of cocaine into the United States to be introduced as crack. It was distributed to the under class in inner cities, a demographic who used to work in factories before we shipped almost all production over seas to save money. Crack worked effectively as a form of population control for this class of people, as well as fuel for the prison-industrial complex. We feed these people, labeled as obsolete hangers-on by the U.S. governement, into a sausage grinder for our profit. The U.S. prison system holds 25% of the world's prison population and 60% are non-violent drug offenders. Private prisons sustain entire communities and have been contracted by businesses to use prisoners for free labor, assembling many household products we use today. Venture capitalists on Wall Street fucking LOVE private prisons. It is not a "war on drugs" because wars end. Muahahahahahahahahahhaha!

Oh, what a loverly world we live in. The beauty of waterfalls and rainbows, balanced with the beauty of lies, slavery, greed, and torture.

What's the point of this question? Operationally it's meaningless.

drugs are purposefully designed to be taken, while medicinal herbs have other functions (such as in an ecosystem), but act as drugs when we take them for their effects on our bodies. if the active molecule(s) in an herb are isolated into another form (for the purpose of being taken), they should not be called medicinal herbs any more.

that is, not all drugs are medicinal herbs, but all medicinal herbs are drugs

imo

Synthetic drug: bullshit.

Medical herb: good shit.

  On 8/18/2013 at 6:37 AM, Redruth said:

there is coffee, there is green tea and then there is passion flower and there r poppy extracts for sleeping. there is chocolate and there is coca and there is cocaine

and then there is lettuce which in significant amounts is a strong sedative; it is an opiate. celery even has mood altering affects and there are countless other examples..

 

lol this reads like it was written by a nine year old

I know man, the world is screwed.

Man.

posing in a troon thread.

A mighty fine pose it is too!

Lettuce is an opiate? Well shiver me timbers! This may explain the whole laughing with salad phenomenon.

I thought they were just putting it all on for the camera, but it could in fact be that they are lettuced up to the eyeballs.

I generally think along the lines of herbal remedies being close to the natural way to treat your body, working with it etc.

Drugs are highly synthesized and work by hijacking your body and flooding it with unnatural things.

*thread hijack*

  On 8/18/2013 at 6:37 AM, Redruth said:

celery even has mood altering affects and there are countless other examples..

 

Ah yes, this has turned out very well indeed.

guy 1: recovered lettuce addict enjoying a lettuce-free salad

guy 2: on a proper bender, ate all the lettuce and took his shirt of before the salad reached the table.. last time his mates put money down for getting lettuce

guy 3: trying to comfort daughter, 'i'll be fine, it's just one small salad, don't tell mum',

guy 4: this guys got some good shit

guy 5: low grade shredded iceberg from a plastic tub but he knows it'll get him fucked

  On 8/19/2013 at 1:33 PM, Gocab said:

 

  On 8/18/2013 at 6:37 AM, Redruth said:

celery even has mood altering affects and there are countless other examples..

 

only before ingestion.

Carrot viagra is a real drug.