Rubin Farr Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Josh Eustis is a whiny ass bitch. it's hilarious when I got to a show and the security tries in vain to ban cell phones, deal with it! "Stop recording shows with your phone - if you paid attention to what you were watching you wouldn't have such a shit memory that you need a crappy phone video to remember something that had an emotional impact on you. It might hit you harder if you actually look at it instead of trying to record it and bumming out everyone around you. Moreover - do you honestly, really, think anyone in the Universe will give a single, solitary, lonesome fuck about your shitty hand held shaky video with garbage audio and your stupid whoops thrown in? Turn off your fucking phone, you tit, and let's create a moment together." Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cear Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 lol, he's right though. fuck cameraphone obsessive concertgoers also this: http://youtu.be/zd2sRC3K9Hs Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cear's signature Hide all signatures Я твой слуга, Я твой работник Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 The people recordings gigs are fooking annoying- I only see arms raised with displays making a sight hard. Come on, he's really right with what he says. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 On 10/7/2013 at 8:37 PM, Rubin Farr said: Josh Eustis is a whiny ass bitch. it's hilarious when I got to a show and the security tries in vain to ban cell phones, deal with it! "Stop recording shows with your phone - if you paid attention to what you were watching you wouldn't have such a shit memory that you need a crappy phone video to remember something that had an emotional impact on you. It might hit you harder if you actually look at it instead of trying to record it and bumming out everyone around you. Moreover - do you honestly, really, think anyone in the Universe will give a single, solitary, lonesome fuck about your shitty hand held shaky video with garbage audio and your stupid whoops thrown in? Turn off your fucking phone, you tit, and let's create a moment together." i agree with him. there is nothing i hate more than going somewhere to see something and there are a bunch of assholes standing still pointing their camera towards the very thing i went to enjoy. they usually take forever to take a single picture and need hours to get it on video- often eliciting others to do the very thing. also, if i paid money to see something, why would i record it to show someone else for free? why not just tell the others "that show was great. you should go watch it". they take the mystery out of everything because they feel the need to record and photograph everything they're doing ALL THE TIME Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhonny Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I like to take one snap with my phone just so that I've got something to keep/share. However it's well annoying when people are recording near you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Yeah, people recording shit on their phones pisses me annoys me to no end as well. edit:LOL wtf did I just write. Edited October 7, 2013 by Gocab Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't see the point of looking at the screen of a phone during something you paid money to hear/see. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) I'd be bitter about people filming shows with cellphones too if my flash in the pan status as a 3rd tier IDM superstar is now over, and I won't be playing the Guggenheim again any time soon Edited October 7, 2013 by John Ehrlichman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 That's why soundboard recordings and/or professionally-produced videos should be an option for purchase after seeing a show, using the ticket voucher code as a way to download the assets and be included in the purchase price. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 On 10/7/2013 at 11:51 PM, Joyrex said: That's why soundboard recordings and/or professionally-produced videos should be an option for purchase after seeing a show, using the ticket voucher code as a way to download the assets and be included in the purchase price. could i be first to enter the joyrex parallel universe when the cherubims have left their guard? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) comics do seems to get especially pissed off about this, case in point Lee Hurst. be warned he will kill you. Edited October 8, 2013 by MadameChaos Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 is joshua eustis still solo now after charles cooper's horrible death, or did someone join with him? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 On 10/7/2013 at 9:10 PM, Nebraska said: On 10/7/2013 at 8:37 PM, Rubin Farr said: Josh Eustis is a whiny ass bitch. it's hilarious when I got to a show and the security tries in vain to ban cell phones, deal with it! "Stop recording shows with your phone - if you paid attention to what you were watching you wouldn't have such a shit memory that you need a crappy phone video to remember something that had an emotional impact on you. It might hit you harder if you actually look at it instead of trying to record it and bumming out everyone around you. Moreover - do you honestly, really, think anyone in the Universe will give a single, solitary, lonesome fuck about your shitty hand held shaky video with garbage audio and your stupid whoops thrown in? Turn off your fucking phone, you tit, and let's create a moment together." i agree with him. there is nothing i hate more than going somewhere to see something and there are a bunch of assholes standing still pointing their camera towards the very thing i went to enjoy. they usually take forever to take a single picture and need hours to get it on video- often eliciting others to do the very thing. also, if i paid money to see something, why would i record it to show someone else for free? why not just tell the others "that show was great. you should go watch it". they take the mystery out of everything because they feel the need to record and photograph everything they're doing ALL THE TIME THANK FUCKING YOU. The next generation will hopefully learn to use technology in moderation and stop with the over the top capturing and blurbing of everything in their view just because they FUCKING CAN! I, too, am very tired of all of it, especially when I feel obliged to follow suit at shows, on vacations, etc.. then i get home and realize, i dont even care to upload or share these images/videos anyway. id rather tell stories about it. THATS WHAT STORIES ARE FOR. If this generation doesnt calm down with their over-saturation of capturing and blurbing, theyre going to end up a dull, story-less, unenthusiastic bunch of smart technology tool-toting tools. but, i have faith moderation will come into play. Every new technology and capability is sensationalized/overused in the beginning (just like in audio with panning, electric guitar solos, synth fx, etc). It's just that they better start to moderate now, cuz it's been old for quite a while. Stop fucking capturing and sharing. For once. Breathe in raw experience. I don't even know what it's like to go out to a public place by myself and simply look around and let my eyes wander anymore. We're all so used to burying our heads into our mobile devices when any given moment is awkward, if we're by ourselves, if we're feeling ignored, if we're not entertained, if we don't know anyone in the area. It's the ultimate excuse for not connecting, not taking risks, not engaging, not living. Im a victim like everyone else. There have been few times when I've purposely awkwardly stared at the wall or looked around at people and things while out eating by myself. and I felt like a fucking alien. it's completely surreal. why have we become this way?? rant over (: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 it is viral, it's an epidemic; yet everyone is so enamored with the experience that they deny its obvious effects on others or on themselves. this scenario is present in our relationships to so many aspects of 'modern' life. we r changing, we r mutating, we r mutants. everything is virtual, but not in the same way we were brought up to define virtual reality; the common definition of it. we r not living life, we r living the picture we have painted over what life once was. the world is gone. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 see, it's working Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 On 10/8/2013 at 12:40 AM, Redruth said: it is viral, it's an epidemic; yet everyone is so enamored with the experience that they deny its obvious effects on others or on themselves. this scenario is present in our relationships to so many aspects of 'modern' life. we r changing, we r mutating, we r mutants. everything is virtual, but not in the same way we were brought up to define virtual reality; the common definition of it. we r not living life, we r living the picture we have painted over what life once was. the world is gone. fuuu. i couldn't have... said it better. so, the question, sir Redruth, is... okay, the world is gone. soaks in the proposed reality... Now what? A. continue to exist in this new non-world, as it is, and as it is currently moving? B. build a new world up again? C. customize make this new non-world work for us.? D. get the original world back, but make it better? E. None of the above? (fill in the blank) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 steve jobs is laughing all the way to the bank about this "fuck you if you dont want to make this moment special" gulag Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 On 10/8/2013 at 1:02 AM, Lane Visitor said: On 10/8/2013 at 12:40 AM, Redruth said: it is viral, it's an epidemic; yet everyone is so enamored with the experience that they deny its obvious effects on others or on themselves. this scenario is present in our relationships to so many aspects of 'modern' life. we r changing, we r mutating, we r mutants. everything is virtual, but not in the same way we were brought up to define virtual reality; the common definition of it. we r not living life, we r living the picture we have painted over what life once was. the world is gone. fuuu. i couldn't have... said it better. so, the question, sir Redruth, is... okay, the world is gone. soaks in the proposed reality... Now what? A. continue to exist in this new non-world, as it is, and as it is currently moving? B. build a new world up again? C. customize make this new non-world work for us.? D. get the original world back, but make it better? E. None of the above? (fill in the blank) do the best we can to see things the way they truly r and help invoke change when the chance is given. that's all we can do is try to help. what else r we going to do? first we need to wake up to what is really going on. we r nothing but trouble if we continue to sleepwalk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 http://youtu.be/cc5wkQm6B44 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) On 10/8/2013 at 1:12 AM, skibby said: steve jobs is laughing all the way to the bank about this "fuck you if you dont want to make this moment special" gulag heh, right, now everyone's eating his apples Edited October 8, 2013 by Redruth Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Some aspects of Pre-Cell Phone Culture should be revived. This, I think, is one of them. (P.S. I don't even own a cell phone because I don't like what it's done to the people around me. No joke.) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) I have been making a marked effort to keep my iphone photos to a minimum. I'm trying to remember things. Creative output is one thing, but taking a picture every time you see something that is kind of nice -- that's an illness, it's OCD, like you are afraid you are going to lose something if you don't take a picture. I try to record lots of sounds, and write a lot, but the picture thing is just a problem, not to mention the issue of digital littering. There are so many decaying hard drives with thousands of food pictures on them. The average 16-20 year old today probably litter's their hard drive with 100 pictures per outing, and then they go on the facebook servers. How many drives have they gone through in trying to maintain that? A lot or all of it of it is probably outsourced to Amazon data centers, and they use up hard drives quickly. It all goes in the landfill after Chinese peasants burn the rare earths out. ~ The main problem with our culture is how we covet. Everything is mirrored from something else. Everyone wants what everyone else has, and so they are connected to everyone else so that they can see what everyone else has, and so it's this horrifying, throbbing mass. It's the idol. I think a lot of the kids born from 95-05 are going to be a lost generation. They are infected by social media and pornography so terribly, on a level that a lot of us born in the 80's cannot understand. My friend is a 5th grade teacher and he has seen it. You have to figure out how to want based on your own perception of real things. Edited October 8, 2013 by sheatheman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 On 10/8/2013 at 6:43 AM, LimpyLoo said: Some aspects of Pre-Cell Phone Culture should be revived. This, I think, is one of them. (P.S. I don't even own a cell phone because I don't like what it's done to the people around me. No joke.) I still haven't bought a smartphone for that reason. I don't text either. If I really need to talk I actually call people or send an email. People are insane. I was almost hit by a swerving texting driver in like slow, 20mph rush hour traffic and when I honked at him he actually started yelling at me and throwing a fucking hissy fit. I just kind of laughed and changed into a faster lane. I have a feeling Josh just had a particularly annoying audience and the phones were the last straw. Having seen Telefon Tel Aviv years ago I'll be quite frank: it was an enjoyable show but there wasn't really anything to bootleg. Personally, I think it affects the other audience members more than the performer. It's only really an issue when so many dipshits are recording or taking pictures that they actually obscure views and/or become disengaged with the actual show. I've already seen a lot of venues take action, but more notably a lot of audience members seem to chew people out when needed. I dunno, I'm with XXX, my beef is still with people who talk or text or fucking act completely disengaged. I went to ACL Fest this weekend and during the Grimes show I'd say only 50% tops of the front 10-15 rows were even moving. They were all bros and rich girls waiting around for Kendrick Lamar or some shit. I'm still perplexed why these kids were even at the festival. A minority of the audience but a noticeable one nonetheless. 5 minutes before the show started some teenage girls started pushing through and got stuck and one fucking said "what's the band play again? like their hit songs?" and I was and I was like "if you don't know who you're going to watch you don't deserve to get up front" and she was like [turn Adventure time LSP voice up to 5 out of 10 here] "we're trying to find our friends and whatever do you know her songs?" and I was like "yeah I've actually listened to all of her albums" and then she was like [unintentional valley girl voice at max] "then like why aren't you up there!?" and I was like "because I've been waiting for almost an hour and this is how far I got, just like everyone else whose fucking here" and then by that point they gave up. Besides this stoner couple who were about my age and a tall lanky dude next to me only the back crowd danced. There were young girls literally glaring at people dancing or trying to get the attention of males between checking their phones. And these are the ones who tried to get close to the stage. It was surreal. Long story short - people suck. It's not the phones or recording devices but the attitudes and sincerity (or lack thereof) behind them. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zelmo Swift Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 On 10/8/2013 at 7:13 AM, joshuatx said: On 10/8/2013 at 6:43 AM, LimpyLoo said: Some aspects of Pre-Cell Phone Culture should be revived. This, I think, is one of them. (P.S. I don't even own a cell phone because I don't like what it's done to the people around me. No joke.) I still haven't bought a smartphone for that reason. I don't text either. If I really need to talk I actually call people or send an email. People are insane. I was almost hit by a swerving texting driver in like slow, 20mph rush hour traffic and when I honked at him he actually started yelling at me and throwing a fucking hissy fit. I just kind of laughed and changed into a faster lane. I have a feeling Josh just had a particularly annoying audience and the phones were the last straw. Having seen Telefon Tel Aviv years ago I'll be quite frank: it was an enjoyable show but there wasn't really anything to bootleg. Personally, I think it affects the other audience members more than the performer. It's only really an issue when so many dipshits are recording or taking pictures that they actually obscure views and/or become disengaged with the actual show. I've already seen a lot of venues take action, but more notably a lot of audience members seem to chew people out when needed. I dunno, I'm with XXX, my beef is still with people who talk or text or fucking act completely disengaged. I went to ACL Fest this weekend and during the Grimes show I'd say only 50% tops of the front 10-15 rows were even moving. They were all bros and rich girls waiting around for Kendrick Lamar or some shit. I'm still perplexed why these kids were even at the festival. A minority of the audience but a noticeable one nonetheless. 5 minutes before the show started some teenage girls started pushing through and got stuck and one fucking said "what's the band play again? like their hit songs?" and I was and I was like "if you don't know who you're going to watch you don't deserve to get up front" and she was like [turn Adventure time LSP voice up to 5 out of 10 here] "we're trying to find our friends and whatever do you know her songs?" and I was like "yeah I've actually listened to all of her albums" and then she was like [unintentional valley girl voice at max] "then like why aren't you up there!?" and I was like "because I've been waiting for almost an hour and this is how far I got, just like everyone else whose fucking here" and then by that point they gave up. Besides this stoner couple who were about my age and a tall lanky dude next to me only the back crowd danced. There were young girls literally glaring at people dancing or trying to get the attention of males between checking their phones. And these are the ones who tried to get close to the stage. It was surreal. Long story short - people suck. It's not the phones or recording devices but the attitudes and sincerity (or lack thereof) behind them. On people sucking: People don't know how to use their brains anymore because the computers and TV's and "smart" phones do it all for them now. So people who are less inclined to think for themselves are even more fucked this day and age than they were 20 years ago. I mean, i'm 30, and I feel like I've seen the world change drastically for the worse within the few decades i've been alive. People don't even have the presence of mind to drive a car well. smdh. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but the people in power sure as fuck don't have any competition from the zoned-out drugged-up underclass. As for people not dancing to Grimes' live performance: I probably wouldn't have been doing much more than bobbing my head and shifting my weight from side to side. Her beats aren't...uh....funky enough for me. Also, have her vocal chops gotten any better? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) The thing that's changed the most is people being knowledgeable, that was a real feat back in the day, now we just pick up our smart phones, google it and forget about it. oh hey this is totally off topic, and I'm not sure how or why it is a bad thing, but I think it is, in some ways. I guess it's the thoughtless regurgitation of facts without having any deeper knowing of the topic at hand, and therefore the lack of knowledge to question it's validity. This goes for most journalism these days as well. hrmmph. Anyways, back to the ranting about people ruining gigs. Edited October 8, 2013 by Gocab Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80773-telefon-tel-aviv-rants-about-recording-his-shows-on-facebook/#findComment-2072280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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