New Plastikman Album

Hi!

First post here, so, sorry if this is in the wrong section.

Anyway, looks like there's a new Plastikman album on the way...

https://twitter.com/richiehawtin/status/397506823714275329

Possibly called 'EX(plorations)'

http://instagram.com/p/gTWl0INfQa/

Richie did his first show in a while as Plastikman the other day, at Guggenheim museum in New York. He played loads of new materiel, so I collected the best vine videos and tried to piece them together....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dvaoPCy9Mo

Thoughts?

Well, i was a fan of Plastikman back in the day, there isn't a single one bad album by him, but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ. His label m_nus released total shit for years since then. Basically, i think he lost the touch completely and album would be a reiteration of past styles.

Thread should be in New & Upcoming releases section of the forum

I'll check it. I don't expect 'Sheet One' or 'Musik', who would, but I'm always curious about any Plastikman release.

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:42 PM, Amen Lare said:

but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ

Me too but he's one of the more interesting big name DJ's

Plus, his interest in technology, although a little corny and commercial sometimes (I'm looking at you contakt) is genuine. The 2010-2012 Plastikman shows were pretty spectacular

I'm not expecting fireworks with this new album but It does sound as if it is going to be a nice deep/dark trip, not just standard M_nus dripping tap techno under the Plastikman moniker

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:54 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:42 PM, Amen Lare said:

but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ

Me too but he's one of the more interesting big name DJ's

 

Plus, his interest in technology, although a little corny and commercial sometimes (I'm looking at you contakt) is genuine. The 2010-2012 Plastikman shows were pretty spectacular

 

I'm not expecting fireworks with this new album but It does sound as if it is going to be a nice deep/dark trip, not just standard M_nus dripping tap techno under the Plastikman moniker

 

Can you link or just name some outstanding mix of him from last years? I enjoyed his DE9 series too, i don't know, at some point he became to seem really shallow to me. I know the story behind his Closer LP, which i thought served as some kind of a splitting point, where he left his schizophrenic dark side in past.

  On 11/8/2013 at 8:04 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:54 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:42 PM, Amen Lare said:

but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ

Me too but he's one of the more interesting big name DJ's

 

Plus, his interest in technology, although a little corny and commercial sometimes (I'm looking at you contakt) is genuine. The 2010-2012 Plastikman shows were pretty spectacular

 

I'm not expecting fireworks with this new album but It does sound as if it is going to be a nice deep/dark trip, not just standard M_nus dripping tap techno under the Plastikman moniker

 

 

Can you link or just name some outstanding mix of him from last years? I enjoyed his DE9 series too, i don't know, at some point he became to seem really shallow to me. I know the story behind his Closer LP, which i thought served as some kind of a splitting point, where he left his schizophrenic dark side in past.

 

He has a lot of sets uploaded to his SC (https://soundcloud.com/richiehawtin) and yeah, they're all passable. Nothing mind-blowing or particularly challenging but he is consistent in what he plays, which is kind of safe but makes him useful if you need a tech-house/Minimal Techno fix

I can't imagine what he's doing now will be as thematically introspective as Closer but sonically some of the tracks he played at Guggenheim sound very close to things like 'Ask Yourself' and 'Ping Pong'. According to him it lies somewhere between 'post-consumed and present day' (https://twitter.com/richiehawtin/status/397404313590718465)

  On 11/8/2013 at 8:20 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 8:04 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:54 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:42 PM, Amen Lare said:

but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ

Me too but he's one of the more interesting big name DJ's

 

Plus, his interest in technology, although a little corny and commercial sometimes (I'm looking at you contakt) is genuine. The 2010-2012 Plastikman shows were pretty spectacular

 

I'm not expecting fireworks with this new album but It does sound as if it is going to be a nice deep/dark trip, not just standard M_nus dripping tap techno under the Plastikman moniker

 

 

Can you link or just name some outstanding mix of him from last years? I enjoyed his DE9 series too, i don't know, at some point he became to seem really shallow to me. I know the story behind his Closer LP, which i thought served as some kind of a splitting point, where he left his schizophrenic dark side in past.

 

He has a lot of sets uploaded to his SC (https://soundcloud.com/richiehawtin) and yeah, they're all passable. Nothing mind-blowing or particularly challenging but he is consistent in what he plays, which is kind of safe but makes him useful if you need a tech-house/Minimal Techno fix

 

I can't imagine what he's doing now will be as thematically introspective as Closer but sonically some of the tracks he played at Guggenheim sound very close to things like 'Ask Yourself' and 'Ping Pong'. According to him it lies somewhere between 'post-consumed and present day' (https://twitter.com/richiehawtin/status/397404313590718465)

 

Thanks, i guess i'll give it a chance, but dayuuumn, how cheesy things have become. Took a look at his site, there are all types of bullshit: The Raven goth-styled promo photos, idiotic "famous person" bio, fucking remix app etc. Painful to watch.

Be nice to hear a return to some acid on the new album...

Bleepsnbloops, were you at the Guggenheim gig? From the clips it sounds like a lot of people were more interested in chatting than hearing his set?

I saw his show at Brixton in 2011 and that was pretty awesome.

  On 11/8/2013 at 11:02 PM, Ciderfeks said:

Be nice to hear a return to some acid on the new album...

 

Bleepsnbloops, were you at the Guggenheim gig? From the clips it sounds like a lot of people were more interested in chatting than hearing his set?

 

I saw his show at Brixton in 2011 and that was pretty awesome.

Nope, unfortunately. I just cobbled together all the clips I could find from instagram/vine

I think it was a Dior fundraiser type event for the museum. Which I guess explains the disinterested crowd. Though, it's kind of disappointing that he chose to debut brand new material at a place where most people wouldn't even notice, let-alone pay the music any attention. Fingers crossed for a proper tour.

  On 11/8/2013 at 9:34 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 8:20 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 8:04 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:54 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:42 PM, Amen Lare said:

but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ

Me too but he's one of the more interesting big name DJ's

 

Plus, his interest in technology, although a little corny and commercial sometimes (I'm looking at you contakt) is genuine. The 2010-2012 Plastikman shows were pretty spectacular

 

I'm not expecting fireworks with this new album but It does sound as if it is going to be a nice deep/dark trip, not just standard M_nus dripping tap techno under the Plastikman moniker

 

 

Can you link or just name some outstanding mix of him from last years? I enjoyed his DE9 series too, i don't know, at some point he became to seem really shallow to me. I know the story behind his Closer LP, which i thought served as some kind of a splitting point, where he left his schizophrenic dark side in past.

 

He has a lot of sets uploaded to his SC (https://soundcloud.com/richiehawtin) and yeah, they're all passable. Nothing mind-blowing or particularly challenging but he is consistent in what he plays, which is kind of safe but makes him useful if you need a tech-house/Minimal Techno fix

 

I can't imagine what he's doing now will be as thematically introspective as Closer but sonically some of the tracks he played at Guggenheim sound very close to things like 'Ask Yourself' and 'Ping Pong'. According to him it lies somewhere between 'post-consumed and present day' (https://twitter.com/richiehawtin/status/397404313590718465)

 

 

Thanks, i guess i'll give it a chance, but dayuuumn, how cheesy things have become. Took a look at his site, there are all types of bullshit: The Raven goth-styled promo photos, idiotic "famous person" bio, fucking remix app etc. Painful to watch.

 

Yep and the worst thing is, it's not done in a tongue-in-cheek Kraftwerk-y way, he's seems to take the 'brand' really seriously

Anyway, bnb, you're welcome here. You seem like a knowledgeable chap, feel free to post other stuff. FYI, one or two users here already have Drexciyan image as their avatars, so you may want to distinguish yourself a bit more. It's up for you though

  On 11/9/2013 at 12:35 AM, Amen Lare said:

Anyway, bnb, you're welcome here. You seem like a knowledgeable chap, feel free to post other stuff. FYI, one or two users here already have Drexciyan image as their avatars, so you may want to distinguish yourself a bit more. It's up for you though

Thanks man.

Changed my avatar. Hope not too many people have Hawtin as JJ Binks for theirs.

btw Dior just posted this. Sounds like it's probably proper, studio snippets from two of the new tracks he played...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp5u_kZKaU

  On 11/9/2013 at 12:51 AM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/9/2013 at 12:35 AM, Amen Lare said:

Anyway, bnb, you're welcome here. You seem like a knowledgeable chap, feel free to post other stuff. FYI, one or two users here already have Drexciyan image as their avatars, so you may want to distinguish yourself a bit more. It's up for you though

Thanks man.

 

Changed my avatar. Hope not too many people have Hawtin as JJ Binks for theirs.

btw Dior just posted this. Sounds like it's probably proper, studio snippets from two of the new tracks he played...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp5u_kZKaU

 

Lol, great avatar! Props

Must say that it sounds decent at best, not impressive. Will check the album out, but I think he should leave Plastikman retired. I saw Plastikman live in 2011 or so, and it was way too much focussed on the visuals and technical blabla which I really don´t care about + it made everyone just stand with their crappy iPhone filming the whole gig or watching it through some app and not experiencing anything of the music. I also agree 100% with this post:

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:42 PM, Amen Lare said:

Well, i was a fan of Plastikman back in the day, there isn't a single one bad album by him, but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ. His label m_nus released total shit for years since then. Basically, i think he lost the touch completely and album would be a reiteration of past styles.

 

Thread should be in New & Upcoming releases section of the forum

I saw some M_nus artists and it was absolutely the most BORING shit I've EVER heard live (or on record). I saw Magda and Marco Carola and they absolutely killed all my interest in minimal tech forever.

I was able to catch the Lowlands performance of Plastikman in... 2010 I think. It was a pretty intense show in all honesty

(Thank you XTC)

Then again, I wasn't melted by The Aphex Twin yet (which happened in 2011) and all psychoactives that go with it, which completely changed my outlook on what music is.

What a journey.

I was somewhere in front, which was the weirdest

-edit-

I think I was right next to this guy.

Oh right, the topic.

Eh, got carried away by reminiscence

Let's see what will come out. I don't really think Hawtin can live up to his Plastikman brilliance anymore: IMO, it was all thrown overboard when he decided to become a superstar DJ and move to Berlin, and be all cool and dandy. Not too mention that horrible M_nus crowd, and complementing music.. and DJ's. Such boring ass shit, which is very deep if you're a shallow cunt.

Ah well.

I'll be surprised if it's amazing but hope it won't be meh.

  On 11/9/2013 at 1:48 PM, Phoenix said:

Let's see what will come out. I don't really think Hawtin can live up to his Plastikman brilliance anymore: IMO, it was all thrown overboard when he decided to become a superstar DJ and move to Berlin, and be all cool and dandy. Not too mention that horrible M_nus crowd, and complementing music.. and DJ's. Such boring ass shit, which is very deep if you're a shallow cunt

richie is a lot smarter than people give him credit for... he's serious about his art but he's always expressed that he really does what he wants to do for himself - he honestly wants to have tons of fun and DJ "passable" sets and party with sven and whomever is around - he's lives a charmed life. gotta pay for that somehow. Also important to remember that richie's music life started around fun parties - not jsut sitting in his room geeking out and planning a grand artistic statement that would appease likeminded dorks. No doubt he could hunker down, lock himself up and come out with a new *killer* plastikman album, but he has a certain joie de vivre that others don't... esp people (afx) who claim their music is "only for themselves" when in fact it reeks of social insecurity. I respect that even though I know he'll never top Recycled Plastik or Consumed or Musik or Sheet One.

I will agree m_nus is kinda bad and magda is a piece of shit even tho kinda hot

  On 11/9/2013 at 9:41 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/9/2013 at 1:48 PM, Phoenix said:

Let's see what will come out. I don't really think Hawtin can live up to his Plastikman brilliance anymore: IMO, it was all thrown overboard when he decided to become a superstar DJ and move to Berlin, and be all cool and dandy. Not too mention that horrible M_nus crowd, and complementing music.. and DJ's. Such boring ass shit, which is very deep if you're a shallow cunt

 

I feel the same about a lot of the M_nus stuff and the 'DJ Richie Hawtin' thing but what I appreciate is that he's always kept Plastikman separate from his other ventures. Which shows a self awareness and respect for the legacy, that gives me hope that this might be properly dark and twisted and not just mix-friendly minimal techno under the guise of Plastikman

 

  On 11/10/2013 at 3:39 AM, dr lopez said:

richie is a lot smarter than people give him credit for... he's serious about his art but he's always expressed that he really does what he wants to do for himself - he honestly wants to have tons of fun and DJ "passable" sets and party with sven and whomever is around - he's lives a charmed life. gotta pay for that somehow. Also important to remember that richie's music life started around fun parties - not jsut sitting in his room geeking out and planning a grand artistic statement that would appease likeminded dorks. No doubt he could hunker down, lock himself up and come out with a new *killer* plastikman album, but he has a certain joie de vivre that others don't... esp people (afx) who claim their music is "only for themselves" when in fact it reeks of social insecurity. I respect that even though I know he'll never top Recycled Plastik or Consumed or Musik or Sheet One.

 

I will agree m_nus is kinda bad and magda is a piece of shit even tho kinda hot

I agree with both of you here, about him at least having the decency to keep the Plastikman name away from his other DJ ventures, and the fact that he started out having fun in the first place. Another great album is either in him, or it just isn't... I'm looking forward to hearing a new Plastikman album regardless, but I may get let down. I've been hoping for another one for so long, that I had basically written him off. We'll see.

  On 11/8/2013 at 8:04 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:54 PM, bleepsnbloops said:

 

  On 11/8/2013 at 7:42 PM, Amen Lare said:

but i lost him immediately after he put this project to sleep and focused on being a trendy big name DJ

Me too but he's one of the more interesting big name DJ's

 

Plus, his interest in technology, although a little corny and commercial sometimes (I'm looking at you contakt) is genuine. The 2010-2012 Plastikman shows were pretty spectacular

 

I'm not expecting fireworks with this new album but It does sound as if it is going to be a nice deep/dark trip, not just standard M_nus dripping tap techno under the Plastikman moniker

 

 

Can you link or just name some outstanding mix of him from last years? I enjoyed his DE9 series too, i don't know, at some point he became to seem really shallow to me. I know the story behind his Closer LP, which i thought served as some kind of a splitting point, where he left his schizophrenic dark side in past.

 

I like this one where he played alongside Anish Kapoor's epic Leviathan installation in Paris. The Xerox series by Alva Noto ties the mix together. Pretty fucking great imo.

He's absolutely dreadful now. Did you see that video of him playing at ENTER. at Space in Ibiza where he pretty much forgot he was DJing because he was too busy schmoozing in the booth and then took over a minute to choose his next tune, which was just as shit as his last one. He did it numerous times and shortly thereafter STAGE DIVED into the crowd.

Tosser.

He used to be excellent though no doubt and it's a damn shame. I remember seeing him at The End in London along with Magda and Gaiser. It was the night before NYE a fair few years ago (maybe 6). It was pretty incredible. That was, to me, when M_nus was good. Tracks like Ambivalent R U OK, JPLS Green01 and Lost on the way to DC10 by Troy Pierce.

  On 11/12/2013 at 2:13 PM, KGW said:

He's absolutely dreadful now. Did you see that video of him playing at ENTER. at Space in Ibiza where he pretty much forgot he was DJing because he was too busy schmoozing in the booth and then took over a minute to choose his next tune, which was just as shit as his last one. He did it numerous times and shortly thereafter STAGE DIVED into the crowd.

 

Tosser.

 

He used to be excellent though no doubt and it's a damn shame. I remember seeing him at The End in London along with Magda and Gaiser. It was the night before NYE a fair few years ago (maybe 6). It was pretty incredible. That was, to me, when M_nus was good. Tracks like Ambivalent R U OK, JPLS Green01 and Lost on the way to DC10 by Troy Pierce.

Can't consolidate with you, to me these tracks and artists are already full-on trendy M_nus. It was good until circa 2003 with just a small bunch of releases.

This was one of the last good records and it's 2003

http://youtu.be/9i5JrCdrxVM

Yeah they are full-on trendy M_nus as you put it, but they were released when I was properly getting into [minimal] techno and clubbing, so I loved them.

Ex preview

Hopeful for this. Samples are up on Richie's soundcloud page as well.