Obama's State of the Union 2014

Obama's State of the Union Checklist:

-brings out injured veteran and does a crocodile sad face while also talking about the need for indefinite warfare in the middle east

-alludes to our adherence to the constitution without even mentioning the NSA scandal, i guess better to pretend it's not happening vs defending the indefensible (did i miss a part where he talked about it?)

-proclaims our allegiance to Israel and refers to it as 'the jewish state'

-lies about how many people we are still planning to keep in Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely

-claims he's going to close Gitmo before the end of his presidency, probably another false platitude. He may 'close' it but the prisoners will probably go to other black site prisons or have trumped up and/or fake charges brought to them.

-makes a swipe at Russia by mentioning the olympics in the same sentence as our openness about sexual orientation, clever attempt but won't erase the fact that Russia is giving Edward Snowden asylum...

*snorefest*

o, anything you like in that speech, or are you republican/teaparty?

Good run-down. See you next year.

  On 1/29/2014 at 8:11 AM, goDel said:

*snorefest*

o, anything you like in that speech, or are you republican/teaparty?

i thought it was just a sad joke, the entire thing. I find him abhorrent. I'm so liberal I'm practically a communist, so no you can be anti war mongering/nsa spying/blatant idiocy and still not be a teaparty republican

in before john saying "wrong side of history"

wrong side of... fuck!

IN BEFORE BROWNSHIRT

SOMEHOW

lol, love you guys

group hug

Dog and pony show. Same shit different toilet. ect. I don't honestly know why people care at this point. Either we all band together and fight the powers that be or we're fucked.

Glad Obama is still keeping the polls up, the trolls tried to be too stupid w/GWB, now they need to do the other end. Wonder what nonsense president is next to keep heading the American Express while people argue and care about their blazing down the same hell-hole?

I'm probably naive for feeling optimistic in anyway after the speech, but I think there are some positives that have come out of the presidency. I don't think I've examined the facts as deeply as John has so I probably am missing a lot of things which change my opinion. Things like:

- the start of universal healthcare/a fix to the healthcare problem

- Republican party is now a clown show in almost complete disarray

- stated intent to fix the spying problem

- stated intent to keep us out of war

- stated intent to heal some foreign relations

- stated intent to push for new energy alternatives

- stated intent to close Gitmo

-focus on getting money into the pockets of the middle class to expand the economy instead of the old line, rich create jobs, etc.

I could actually list more things, but it's hard to have faith in any of it right now. I'm hoping for better, but by definition this is what a politician does. I'm not really offended by the whole charade that much though. I felt a sincerity in words and actions for the people brought in as examples.

Sometimes I think to myself; being Canadian wouldn't be so bad. Woe is me. Things have gotten much worse than I thought.

Also, I've lost all respect for Rand Paul. I was hoping it we would be a good libertarian candidate.

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:19 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Also, I've lost all respect for Rand Paul. I was hoping it we would be a good libertarian candidate.

"Good libertarian", sounds like an oxymoron.

I didn't watch it because I don't particularly enjoy being lied to.

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:53 PM, azatoth said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:19 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Also, I've lost all respect for Rand Paul. I was hoping it we would be a good libertarian candidate.

"Good libertarian", sounds like an oxymoron.

 

I support anything that helps shake up the two party system, and brings balance.

  On 1/29/2014 at 2:05 PM, Ethel said:

Sometimes I think to myself; being Canadian wouldn't be so bad. Woe is me. Things have gotten much worse than I thought.

Why would it be bad?

=S

Didn't bother watching it either. And the last two of his term aren't gonna have any meaning either unless he winds up operations in Afghanistan, ceases drone strikes, shuts down Gitmo, etc.

Seems like all hat and no cattle at this point. Just more empty speeches.

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:58 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:53 PM, azatoth said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:19 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Also, I've lost all respect for Rand Paul. I was hoping it we would be a good libertarian candidate.

"Good libertarian", sounds like an oxymoron.

 

 

I support anything that helps shake up the two party system, and brings balance.

 

I feel the same way, I wish the Green-Libertarian candidates were the actual choices.

I was on a libertarian kick for years, Ron Paul is still one the most sincere statesmen who has served, but I could not say I support him earnestly. He's still too naive and unrealistic on many issues. Plus he was shut down by the whole irrational, mean-spirited and nihilistic Ayn Rand loving bullshit part of the GOP that co-opted all of the worst bits of libertarian/tea party ethos, but there's a fair of reasonable people who consider themselves libertarian leaning. The ones that cross-over to anarchist and leftist thought. They aren't even remotely part of the conservative movement that's in power though.

People from all sides and backgrounds are fed up, but apathy is the establishment's best friend. If you stripped away the left vs right, red vs blue state, dem vs gop dicotomy you could seriously have say, tea party and occupy people discussing and agreeing about changes that need to be made.

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:58 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:53 PM, azatoth said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:19 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Also, I've lost all respect for Rand Paul. I was hoping it we would be a good libertarian candidate.

"Good libertarian", sounds like an oxymoron.

 

 

I support anything that helps shake up the two party system, and brings balance.

 

Support socialists then rather than nutters like Rand Paul.

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:55 PM, Braintree said:

I didn't watch it because I don't particularly enjoy being lied to.

+1

tbh i tried to watch but the video kept crashing. thanks obama.

  On 1/29/2014 at 6:21 PM, azatoth said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:58 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 5:53 PM, azatoth said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:19 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Also, I've lost all respect for Rand Paul. I was hoping it we would be a good libertarian candidate.

"Good libertarian", sounds like an oxymoron.

 

 

I support anything that helps shake up the two party system, and brings balance.

 

 

Support socialists then rather than nutters like Rand Paul.

 

>states disapproval and removal of support for candidate

>criticized for potentially supporting candidate

Now you know what to do.

Although, not voting does as much good as voting for a 3rd party. System's rigged and you're stuck with two parties.

  On 1/29/2014 at 6:01 PM, ambermonk said:

Seems like all hat and no cattle at this point. Just more empty speeches.

  On 1/29/2014 at 6:37 PM, azatoth said:

Now you know what to do.

 

Although, not voting does as much good as voting for a 3rd party. System's rigged and you're stuck with two parties.

If you have a splintered party and you support one element of the party it should help fix this problem.