Ragnar Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I want to do some generative stuff and i'd like to have the raw versions that actually make new/non-repeating music as they go, along with the wav/MP3 version. But would anyone hear bother with setting up Buzz, copying the dlls, etc.? Just been something I've wanted to do Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) id say Buzz is probably not the best option, something like Reaktor and Max/msp i think would pique people's interest more. Because then you could essentially make stand-alone executable patches on those to include in your album. if you already know your way around buzz, i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make the jump to reaktor or max/msp for doing similar things Edited February 1, 2014 by John Ehrlichman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 ah I've tossed this idea around as well. You really want a non-editable format for it. Other wise it's like publishing a book in a word document. :p I think Flash might be the best platform unfortunately. Or a true compiled binary application that could run on the listener's device of choice. For instance a buzz to iphone app translater. :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 An idea that came to my mind was that it could be streamed constantly to the internet from a dedicated PC and people could just listen to the broadcast. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 there's Analog Box, which is real nice for making automatons.. you should check out the example files, some of the jambot*.Abox2 files are real nice. https://sites.google.com/site/analogbox2/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide foresense's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Yes unfortunately the problem with Buzz (as an avid user of it for nearly 15 years) as that it really is a difficult to transfer file format. Even my other band partner who has pretty much a clone of my Buzz install had issues playing back things I'd made (and vice versa) so when we get together to make albums we end up having to sending FLACs of our rendered projects as a compromise. I remember a while back when Buzé was going to be a replacement there was talk of a .bmz - a sort of self contained zipped Buzz document that contained all the relevant machines as well. Alas that never seemed to manifest itself. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 On 2/1/2014 at 11:43 PM, slightlydrybeans said: ah I've tossed this idea around as well. You really want a non-editable format for it. Other wise it's like publishing a book in a word document. :p which is why i suggest Reaktor, because he could release it like the Mouth or Finger in a stand-alone reaktor player or he could Pluggo a max/msp patch and make it stand-alone on Mac OSX, or just release a max/msp patch for the free max/msp reader on any platform Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Still much less than ideal as you'd need a pc / laptop + reaktor. Try getting that installed on your machine at work. :P Really though some binary would be ideal. Like if you could compile a pd sketch down to a .exe or .app Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanarie Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Still on Buzz 2000 m'self here, so sure, drop me a bmx:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kanarie's signature Hide all signatures http://soundcloud.com/kanarie-1 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnio Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 nice idea, but watch out for dependencies: vst instruments, effects, samples, etc. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 On 2/2/2014 at 12:05 AM, mcbpete said: Yes unfortunately the problem with Buzz (as an avid user of it for nearly 15 years) as that it really is a difficult to transfer file format. Even my other band partner who has pretty much a clone of my Buzz install had issues playing back things I'd made (and vice versa) so when we get together to make albums we end up having to sending FLACs of our rendered projects as a compromise. Hah, I remember sometimes having trouble making the track sound the same even in my own computer when opening the file again after restarting Buzz. That was 10+ years ago though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Still the case with the latest buzz builds - bless its esoteric socks Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2122971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I had a few tracks together for something like this. I was going to release it as AudioMulch files though, back when AM was free. I've never used Buzz, but some of the comments already suggest that might not be the best format. With a project like that, it might be a better idea to find a solid format to release it (or set up the constantly streaming idea that someone suggested), then actually work on the music. That's a tall order I'm sure, but with the plethora of music creation programs out there, I'm sure there are options. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2123124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 It would would be awesome to look into building it as a node.js or python app with a generative process that could be streamed. I bet you could do it with super collider or something similar. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ryancolecreate's signature Hide all signatures ------ dailyambient.com ------ New Ambient Music Every Day. New ambient album "Sun and Clouds" now out. Use the discount code watmmer for 50% off the $4 album.Check it out. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82139-if-i-distributed-an-album-aswith-bmx-files-would-anybody-listen/#findComment-2123239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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