Paco De Lucia Dead

One of my absolute heroes. Shit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/arts/music/paco-de-lucia-flamenco-guitarist-dies-at-66.html?_r=1

Boo, that's one guitarist that will never be equalled.

Its super happy music. RIP

damn

[youtubehd]89zM9pZzt0U[/youtubehd]

Hey Limpy posted something good

  On 2/26/2014 at 11:08 PM, Pennywise said:

 

Its super happy music. RIP

I think this is pretty shitty actually. I'm not even trying to be a dick or anything.

The stuff limpy posted is a bit better.

Wow, astonishing.

RIP.

Yeah I was never blown away by Paco's band stuff. It always seemed like a failed experiment to me, especially in the 70's when it seemed like it was legally required for an electric bass to be present in the room at all times. Alot of jazzers did the same thing with similar results.

Part of it for me is the inherent shittiness of the sound quality of picking around like that on an acoustic. If he were on an electric it could be a lot nicer. even then I think it lacks focus on composition and has too much emphasis on walking around the fretboard.

maybe you should pick up a guitar and do better then.

  On 2/27/2014 at 12:56 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Part of it for me is the inherent shittiness of the sound quality of picking around like that on an acoustic. If he were on an electric it could be a lot nicer. even then I think it lacks focus on composition and has too much emphasis on walking around the fretboard.

Well I hate to take the side of the purist but the acoustic (flamenco, specifically) guitar is integral to flamenco music in the way a kick drum is integral to house music. Many of the techniques of flamenco (e.g. golpe) can't even be performed on an electric guitar (well, they can be performed but not heard). Many of the technical nuances like--dynamics or timbre--simply wouldn't be noticable on an electric. It is the same with an acoustic piano versus a Fender Rhodes: the Rhodes is a beautiful instrument but it doesn't have the nuance of an acoustic piano.

I just think the rawness and nuance and intimacy of flamenco requires a flamenco guitar. And I'm only really taking a faux-purist stance because there happens to be--in my eyes--aesthetic merit to the tradition of flamenco. Paco was a great destroyer of tradition. He got booed by purist audiences for his posture and his experimental treatment of the traditional flamenco forms. But he retained the aspects of flamenco that make aesthetic sense to him.

Anyway...

Its just nice happy spanish music and you guys have to analyse it and make it boring. :(

RIP great man :(

p.s. I can't emphasize the importance of timbre and tone enough. So much so that a flamenco guitarist's life revolves around the well-being of his fingernails. I studied flamenco guitar for about a year, and I ultimately gave up because my tone sucked on account of my shitty fingernails that I've been biting since I was 7.

That and the golpe (tapping the pickguard with your fingernail while you strum).

  On 2/27/2014 at 1:34 AM, Pennywise said:

Its just nice happy spanish music

 

Err I dunno about that.

Flamenco is all about lust and passion and suffering and loss and death. In a word: duende.

Its totally dancing music, therefore happy music.

RIP. not listened to a great deal of the man's work but definitely had some appreciation.

  On 2/26/2014 at 11:54 PM, LUDD said:

[youtubehd]89zM9pZzt0U[/youtubehd]

this is actually my favourite shred of all time.

Ugh, I spent practically all of high school listening to Paco and forcing my Spanish language class to listen to Paco. RIP.

Also: yes, that is the best shred.

Also: the second guitar trio album from 1996 was a lot better than the wanky original one:

this album was basically on infinite repeat while I was studying for the SATs way back in the old timey days

  On 2/27/2014 at 2:15 AM, baph said:

forcing my Spanish language class to listen to Paco.

how did you accomplish this? tell me you hijacked the PA or something

  On 2/27/2014 at 1:35 AM, LimpyLoo said:

p.s. I can't emphasize the importance of timbre and tone enough. So much so that a flamenco guitarist's life revolves around the well-being of his fingernails. I studied flamenco guitar for about a year, and I ultimately gave up because my tone sucked on account of my shitty fingernails that I've been biting since I was 7.

 

That and the golpe (tapping the pickguard with your fingernail while you strum).

I understand where you are coming from but that track specifically I don't like it. I enjoy the two you posted a great deal more.

  On 2/27/2014 at 12:10 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

 

  On 2/26/2014 at 11:08 PM, Pennywise said:

 

Its super happy music. RIP

 

I think this is pretty shitty actually. I'm not even trying to be a dick or anything.

 

The stuff limpy posted is a bit better.

 

lol shut up trent ur an idiot

  On 2/27/2014 at 3:02 PM, Obel said:

 

  On 2/27/2014 at 12:10 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

 

  On 2/26/2014 at 11:08 PM, Pennywise said:

 

Its super happy music. RIP

 

I think this is pretty shitty actually. I'm not even trying to be a dick or anything.

 

The stuff limpy posted is a bit better.

 

 

lol shut up trent ur an idiot

 

Come on man. It's the equivalent of a techno track that only has changes in melody and has a continuous percussion track. They are great sometimes, but they have to be perfect. Might as well just turn on a metronome or something. I just agree to disagree.

Personal taste is personal taste innit.